Wednesday, August 26, 2009
Conservatives Believe in Feudalism
Cons believe in Feudalism -- one Lord of the Manor and everyone else reduced to being a collection of serfs and vassals locked in life-long service to the local Baron. Every law and every tax code change advocated by the Cons is designed to achieve a medieval society for the USA. They are against Social Security, Medicare, minimum wages, labor unions, income taxes on the wealthy, Health Care reform which would provide coverage for 45 million uninsured Americans, etc. Naturally, Cons want this society to be faith-based and fact-free. I'm surprised they don't want to abolish the Post Office.
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And if they could, I bet they would abolish the police departments, fire departments, military, public utilities, etc.
Ooops, I forgot their love of the police and military, as they use them to force their views on others.
Cons sure love freedom, as long as it's their version of freedom.
Surprise surprise another blog with mis-information about cons, cause the Liberals love hating them. They are not against all those things Liberals just post that cause they know it's things Americans want/need so they wanna make cons look bad as usual. Please don't even bring up the Post Office just shows the government incompetence to run things. I seen a 8 year old run a lemonade stand more efficient. As for the 45 million uninsured people polls show less then 20 million even want the health care. RayGun local and national defense is very important for a civilized country. If we didn't have that we wouldn't have the freedoms we do have of this great nation. You talk about forcing views on people when the Dem's do that the most, their the ones guilty of doing things the way they want, but if you have a opposing view your demonized, its ridiculous.
Bern, you nut, we spend more on defense than all other countries combined. Who's trying to take away our freedom? Didn't Osama Bin Laden say the reason he attacked us was to bankrupt us? Thanks cons, we are nearly bankrupt. Good job.
"Bern, you nut, we spend more on defense than all other countries combined."
-Raygun
You seem to forget that we are also the largest and richest country in the world. Our GDP makes the rest of the world look pathetic.
"Thanks cons, we are nearly bankrupt. Good job."
-Raygun
You seem to forget all the debt we have as a direct result from the democrats! Cash for clunkers, stimulus, medicare, 2009 federal budget and TARP.
RayGun: You should spend some time discussing varying points of views with an actual Conservative. I think you'd be surprised how much you actually have in common; albeit a different way of approaching it. As of now, it *appears* that your views of Conservatives are based on the vocalizations of a subset of uneducated rednecks. Those types exist on both sides of the aisle.
Bern said that "Liberals love hating Conservatives."
That's probably because Liberals are so Lovable, and Conservatives are so Hateable.
"That's probably because Liberals are so Lovable, and Conservatives are so Hateable."
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LOL
"You seem to forget that we are also the largest and richest country in the world. Our GDP makes the rest of the world look pathetic."
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BB, China's GDP will surpass us soon. They are number 2 now, Japan number 3.
BB, our military expenditure surpasses all other countries combined. Our GDP doesn't even surpass China and Japan combined.
"As of now, it *appears* that your views of Conservatives are based on the vocalizations of a subset of uneducated rednecks."
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Anon, those conservative rednecks are your leaders. Palin, W, Beck, Bachman, Joe the plumber, need I go on? Who are the left's dumb-ass leaders that even come close to comparing to yours? Gore, Clinton, Obama, ???.
"Who are the left's dumb-ass leaders that even come close to comparing to yours? Gore, Clinton, Obama, ???."
-Raygun
Brian Baird, Pelosi, Hilary and Biden!
"Our GDP doesn't even surpass China and Japan combined."
-Raygun
GDP 2008
#1 United States $14.33 trillion
#2 Japan $4.844 trillion
#3 China $4.222 trillion
#4 German +$3.818 trillion
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China+Japan+German=$12.88 trillion
So I guess you were wrong! United States not only beat Japan and Chine combined, we beat China, Japan and German combined and still had some change left over!
source:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/print_2206.html
"BB, our military expenditure surpasses all other countries combined."
-Raygun
There are 27 countries in the world that spend a larger percent of their GDP on Military. So when you take into account we are the wealthiest country in the world, with two wars raging, we dont spend a very large portion on military.
Source:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html?countryName=United States&countryCode=us®ionCode=na&rank=28#us
"...because Liberals are so Lovable, and Conservatives are so Hateable."
-CJP
That is because they take from the few and give to the many. Conservatives do the hard work that liberals are to weak to do!
This is all lies.
I can not believe you could just lie and tell people this, and still think that they will believe you.
First thing I want to say is
cons. do believe in more then a "minimum wage" the cons. fought to destroy inheritance tax, but the lib. said no so they gave them a choice either INCREASE THE MINIMUM WAGE OR GET RIDE OF INHERITANCE TAX.
So they picked higher the minimum wage.
Now let me tell you something about libs. all they want to do is put the life of our country in there hands put our country in the government's hand.
They dont even read the biggest spending bill before passing it, and they want control of this country!
The constitution said for the American people to pick what happens to this country, not the government!
You my friend are a lying, disgusting, untrustworthy person, and its people like you that is destroying our country.
I am disgusted that you call yourself an American!
"Our GDP doesn't even surpass China and Japan combined."
-Raygun
GDP 2008
#1 United States $14.33 trillion
#2 Japan $4.844 trillion
#3 China $4.222 trillion
#4 German +$3.818 trillion
__________________________________
China+Japan+German=$12.88 trillion
So I guess you were wrong! United States not only beat Japan and Chine combined, we beat China, Japan and German combined and still had some change left over!
source:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/print_2206.html
"BB, our military expenditure surpasses all other countries combined."
-Raygun
There are 27 countries in the world that spend a larger percent of their GDP on Military. So when you take into account we are the wealthiest country in the world, with two wars raging, we dont spend a very large portion on military.
Source:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html?countryName=United States&countryCode=us®ionCode=na&rank=28#us
"So I guess you were wrong!"
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BB, you are correct. That is twice now (the other time was with anon) that I mistakenly remembered that Japan had a 300 million population and roughly the same GDP. You know how it is, you get something stuck in your head, then keep repeating it, even though it's not true, you come to believe it. Think about cons and trickle down for an analogy.
BB, please compare the European Union to the US in GDP vrs defense spending.
BB, you cons love your military, face it. Reagen, Bush the wise one, and Bush the dumb one, all had huge military budgets. They always had an excuse.
And the main reason for the huge military, is to tell people what to do. You all love telling people what to do, but hate being told what to do.
And you convince the scared little girl masses, that all this military is necessary, through terrorism.
BB, who are we supposed to be afraid of again? I keep forgetting. Is the new danger to your version of freedom, Obama the communist? Is that the new con party line BB?
"BB, who are we supposed to be afraid of again?"
-Reaper
What country does the rest of the world turn to when there is an injustice occuring?
"BB, please compare the European Union to the US in GDP vrs defense spending."
-Reaper
How does what the European Union has done to help the rest of the world compare to what the United States has done? The EU only wants to hand out food and medical supplies which dont fall under defense spending.
BB, who/what are we supposed to be afraid of again? I keep forgetting. Is the new danger to your version of freedom, Obama the communist? Is that the new con party line BB?
What new fear are you cons promulgating now?
How about promulgating religion (belief in the imaginary being) as the new fear for mankind?
Comon BB, times change. God (the imaginary one) is the new enemy.
BB, and other cons, have you ever seen the movie/musical "Across the Universe"?
Never mind, it takes a bit of concentration, and a bit of repetition to understand. You cons only can do the latter, as the former, is too much work.
JC. All you need is love ... (major theme of the movie, major theme of writing, major theme of life.)
"What new fear are you cons promulgating now?"
-Reaper
When are you coming back to reality? The world is a scary place. Are you going to wait until something does happend and only then begin building your defenses? Many countries in the world rely on us to render aide or defense.
"The world is a scary place. Are you going to wait until something does happend and only then begin building your defenses?"
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BB, get over your delusion.
We all die.
I can defend myself (pretty sure bettern than you, but why does it matter, a few months, ????)
I live life as long as I can. Do you understand BB, we all die in the end. Then it's the end. Are u following me?
No God.
Cons, get over it. There is no God...
Are you still on the payroll Bb?
"When are you coming back to reality? The world is a scary place."
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BB, speaking of reality, my leaders, don't really believe (they mostly pretend) in imaginary beings like yours. Think about it, you have Palin, Huckabee, Bachman, Romney, W, and most other con leaders, who believe in an imaginary being. And this imaginary beings book of words tells them, more times than anything else (except to love HIM), to help the poor. But you crazy cons find every way you can to not help the poor. And the third most mentioned item is to eschew riches. How many cons do you know that are not in love with their money?
Isn't it crazy to profess in belief of an imaginary being, whom created the universe, then do the ass opposite of what HE tells you to do? BB, doesn't it sound a little wacky that so many cons do that? Should you really be following people like that? BB, reality is out there, and while maybe hard to accept at first, eventually most find it's not really that bad. Why not give it a try? And if you can't face reality, and want to believe in imaginary beings, why not at least follow HIS words?
Why are there so few, any, cons like Mother Theresa? She really did follow the words.
You said it, Reaper. No one can put it better than you just did.
Unfortunately, you are up against an army of mental midgets.
"Why are there so few, any, cons like Mother Theresa? She really did follow the words."
-Reaper
Did Mother Teresa go around telling everyone to pay taxes so we could help the poor?
Your problem is you simply have a different idea of help. Most Christian conservatives believe in helping the poor thru charity and donating your personal time. Liberals like yourself only believe in increasing taxes and using someone elses money to help the poor. Why dont you get off your ass and help the poor instead of preaching to me about it!
Its funny how you have a similiar stand on almost every topic. Tax others to fix problems instead of fixing it yourself.
"Most Christian conservatives believe in helping the poor thru charity and donating your personal time."
Yes throw the poor some crumbs and indoctrinate them in your egregious misreading of the bible at the same time.
"its funny how you have a similiar stand on almost every topic. Tax others to fix problems instead of fixing it yourself."
All I want is decent health care that won't bankrupt me. Oh, and maybe help with schooling.
The government helped me and paid for 5.5 years (I went to school year round for 4 years, what the hell it was free) of my schooling, after I spent 10 years in the USAF. And they gently pushed me into computers. Incompetent bastards. Eleven years ago they thought computers were the future.
BB, the point is you guys suck at helping the poor. Show me health insurance or job training you all are providing. Yeah, thought so.
BB, if you ever did read the good book, you would notice the Apostle's, especially after Jesus's death, were near perfect examples of socialists (please read the Apostles words, very quick reading, I promise). But cons are bible cherry pickers, and they pick and repeat what they want to hear. Don't most cons try and use God to make them rich? But, according to the bible God didn't think much of money. I wonder why? Maybe, because you end up loving money more than Him.
JC BB, thanks again for that gold tip.
1005.00 +9.50
Maybe it'll break a new record soon? What do you think?
"And they gently pushed me into computers. Incompetent bastards. Eleven years ago they thought computers were the future."
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Sorry, I graduated with a computer science degree 11 years ago, and the gd commie Clinton government bastards enticed me into that field 15 years ago. Shows the government as even more prescient than before. Gd those incompetent commie bastards. Just think about how accurate the government was, and if instead a for profit business would of been in charge. Geez, knowing how much better biz is at everything, I could of been a gd brain surgeon. JC, that gd Clinton, that non God loving commie/socialist/fascist bastard. BB, sign me up, I'm moving to Texas like you.
GD that commie Clinton. Look at this salary review:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/08/highest-paying-college-ma_n_279522.html
And I have to work at home. I could of been a GD brain surgeon, making 4 times that, if private business would of just been in control of my education. JC I am pissed. Look at the GD chart. Out of college for Computer Engineer, 60k. Almost exactly what I received 11 years ago right out of college. Then the .com years hit, and all hell broke loose.
I hate the GD government. That's chicken feed compared to a GD brain surgeon. Or maybe I could of been a GD banker. Oh GD those commie incompetent government bastards.
"All I want is decent health care that won't bankrupt me. Oh, and maybe help with schooling."
-Reaper
And what do the tax payer get in return? Why do you liberals think that the only way to get affordable health care coverage is with the "Public Option"?
"Yes throw the poor some crumbs and indoctrinate them in your egregious misreading of the bible at the same time."
-Reaper
Do you have anything to back that comment? Americans donate a higher percentage of GDP to charity then any other country in the world! I believe charities that I select will do a far better job serving the poor than the government.
CHARITABLE GIVING IN THE U.S.
"The biggest chunk of the donations, $96.82 billion or 32.8%, went to religious organizations."
-USA TODAY
Looks like your evil christians are busy donating to their churches, so they can help their local communities.
source:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-06-25-charitable_N.htm
"JC BB, thanks again for that gold tip.
1005.00 +9.50
Maybe it'll break a new record soon? What do you think?"
-Reaper
Maybe you should look at gold prices adjusted for inflation of the last 30yrs. You would see that the stock market has alot better return with alot less ups and downs. The crash in gold prices during the 80s made stock market crash look like nothing. Go ahead and keep investing in that crap.
http://www.itulip.com/images/goldReal.jpg
"The biggest chunk of the donations, $96.82 billion or 32.8%, went to religious organizations."
-USA TODAY"
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Yes, costs lots of money to build and maintain those churches, which are hardly used. Doesn't sound very efficient. Plus all those pedophile lawsuits cost billions. Then you have to pay salaries ("average salary plus housing/parsonage was $78,000, while Baptist senior pastors earned next to last--$67,000.") for the ministers, priests, etc. So how much of that total is going to the poor? Lets be generous and say 50 percent. So 49 billion, and a lot of that is going to foreign countries. Congress's current health care proposal to insure 49 million Americans is estimated to cost 145 billion? Comon BB, tell those tight wads to open loosen their precious purse strings a little.
Salary Quote from:
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2007/09/what_pastors_ge.html
"So how much of that total is going to the poor?"
-Reaper
If someone is in need of help, all they have to do is go into a church and ask. You complaining about the where the donations are going but you are perfectly happy with everything our government spends your dollars on?
"...church and ask. You complaining about the where the donations are going but you are perfectly happy with everything our government spends"
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BB, the church I am guessing, wastes 50 cents on every dollar through minister salaries and worthless buildings. Plus why should anyone promote belief in an imaginary being? Isn't it dangerous to have an imaginary being whispering stuff in your ear, like attack Iraq?
"Plus why should anyone promote belief in an imaginary being?"
-Reaper
We talked about this, you cant prove god doesnt exist!
"BB, the church I am guessing, wastes 50 cents on every dollar through minister salaries and worthless buildings."
-Reaper
How is that any different from government? At least you can choose if you want to pay into a church.
...god doesnt exist!"
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You said it bb, I couldnt agree more. 9/11, Iraq, abortion, most all of our modern day problems stem from HIM. Lets get over it.
How is that any different from government? At least you can choose if you want to pay into a church.
If you cant prove something exists, then that doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
It also does not mean that it does exist, n'est pas?
And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover." (Mr.16:17-18).
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BB, Jesus (God) said the above. There are lots of other sayings just as explicit as above, and no one is doing what HE says anyone that believes can do.
"It also does not mean that it does exist, n'est pas?"
-CJP
So why do you two continue to cut others down who believe in him?
-Reaper
Which is it Jesus or God?
JC BB, Jesus claimed to be God.
27 Then He *said to Thomas, “aReach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.”
28 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”
JC BB, you arent much of a con, if you don't get into the religious stuff more.
"So why do you two continue to cut others down who believe in him? "
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BB, believers in "him" have caused lots of problems recently. 9/11, Iraq war, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, etc. And Pakistan has nukes and Iran will probably have them before long. BB, with nukes becoming easier and easier to make or acquire, how long before God tells a nut to set one off?
"JC BB, Jesus claimed to be God."
-Reaper
No your verse sounds like Thomas is calling Jesus "My Lord and my God!” Jesus is not claiming to be god.
Like I have said before, I have never read the entire bible and I am not a expert on the bible.
Type in "God Jesus" in google and see what you think.
"BB, believers in "him" have caused lots of problems recently. 9/11, Iraq war, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, etc. And Pakistan has nukes and Iran will probably have them before long. BB, with nukes becoming easier and easier to make or acquire, how long before God tells a nut to set one off?"
-Reaper
Like you said "...a nut"! Those people are nothing more than nuts. You are very quick to critize those who believe in "HIM", but what about all those who do good in him name?
Jesus Christ, The Son of God
the first link I got.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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What does that mean to you BB?
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-Reaper
It means you have to fight for your freedom once in awhile. War is a part of life and where there is freedom, there is someone who wants to take it away from you.
"fight for your freedom once in awhile"
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But would you fight your freely elected government with guns or ?
"But would you fight your freely elected government with guns or ?"
-Reaper
Yes, if they were corrupt and made changes that most Americans didnt want. Example Obama makes himself a life time leader and starts killing white people. LOL Then yes I would fight back. I am not worried about that happending anytime soon, but I am ready if it did.
If Dubya Bush had made himself a lifetime leader and started killing white people, we would all have had the same reaction, Brandon.
What makes you think that such a thing is more likely to happen under Obama than it did under Bush?
"What makes you think that such a thing is more likely to happen under Obama than it did under Bush?"
-Reaper
I never said it would! I would fight against either one.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
-Thomas Jefferson (I believe)
I dont think it was refering to anyone in particular, foreign or domestic.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
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BB, seems lots of cons hinting at something else after they proclaim the above statement.
So what if the health care package passes? Is that a major problem for you? Are you and your buddies ready to revolt?
BB, what kind of bullet resistant vest do you have? They are legal and I have looked around.
"BB, what kind of bullet resistant vest do you have? They are legal and I have looked around."
-Reaper
None right now, I was looking into a level III vest on Ebay. What about you?
"So what if the health care package passes? Is that a major problem for you? Are you and your buddies ready to revolt?"
-Reaper
I am glad it is taking a long time for them to pass it. It gives Americans time to think it over and improve on it. I think we need health care reform. I dont think we need a public option. Increase competition by allowing insurance companies the option to sell coverage everywhere in the states.
Not sure what I would get. But I always want to have a firearm to defeat any vest out there. From what I have seen a top of the line vest is 800 or so?
Level 3 is supposed to defeat up to .308. I have a 300 Win Mag that has punched a hole through 1/2 inch solid steel that I found at the range one day. Hollow points just made a splat mark, but solids punched right through.
CJP, if the economy does collapse, you best be prepared. Gold and bullets and food. BB is stocking up on pretty green paper :-)
"CJP, if the economy does collapse, you best be prepared. "
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CJP, forget about the economy collapsing. What happens if elected officials get killed by a crazy con? Riots. Major riots.
"Gold and bullets and food. BB is stocking up on pretty green paper :-)"
-Reaper
What makes you think I am stocking up on cash? I am investing in real estate and assets. You can keep your pretty little rock that has almost no use besides electronics and wearing it.
When people are starving and the economy collapses, what is worth more a shiney rock or a gun w/ammo?
"When people are starving and the economy collapses, what is worth more a shiney rock or a gun w/ammo?"
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BB, don't you get it? The economy will not collapse, for awhile, as they will just print pretty green paper. You cons are experts at printing paper. There is no limit to what they can print. Gold is very limited.
I have so many guns, so much ammo. I am ok in that department. And in the gold department. I am totally covered. I dont want to reveal too many details.
Reaper you dont get it, its only a rock! Why do you invest in gold? It doesnt have a great return history and it is worthless in an economic collapse. So why would you buy it?
"So why would you buy it?"
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It's portable, accepted by any person in any country, it's rare, it's pretty, they can't print more of it, etc.
I invested around 15 percent of retirement in it. Also silver and palladium and rare gold coins.
"It's portable, accepted by any person in any country, it's rare, it's pretty, they can't print more of it, etc."
-Reaper
"Rare" and "cant print more" are kind of the same thing, most currencies are portable and it is NOT accepted by any person in any country.
It has a poor rate of return and will have another drop in value when the economy recovers. ITS ONLY A ROCK! A thirty man will trade everything he has for a bottle of water and will laugh at your piece of gold.
And thanks again BB, for being my con indicator, which allows me to navigate through all the available choices. Please let me know when you are considering buying gold, so as I know when to sell. thanks.
BB, it's hard to argue with the youthful exuberance of self assurance. But here goes.
Don't experts recommend 10 percent portfolio investment in gold?
I read an article about US fighter pilots receiving gold coins, rings, etc to be used in case they were shot down. A friends father confirmed the story as he was a retired fighter pilot.
You trust the crap they are creating on Wall Street?
"Don't experts recommend 10 percent portfolio investment in gold?"
-Reaper
Expert also say that gold is a stupid investment. Are you worried you will find yourself in a third world country bartering with gold?
I once heard a story of a man in africa, who traded his underwear for a gold dagger that was covered in jems. Maybe you should invest in underwear.
"Expert also say that gold is a stupid investment."
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Thanks for the investment tip BB, as we know cons have been wrong about absolutely everything.
"Thanks for the investment tip BB, as we know cons have been wrong about absolutely everything."
-Reaper
For example, when the republicans warned America that their was a housing bubble coming and the stupid liberals laught at them. Now they want to blame it on the republicans. Maybe you should thank your buddy BARNEY FRANK.
Reaper
Is gold at a high or low?
BB, I just don't trust the money grubbers on wall street who push their packages of paper that no one understands.
With China coming online in a big way, inflation will happen. But who knows for sure, with their cheap labor, that may tame inflation for some time.
Hope I am wrong about the coming hyper inflation.
"Hope I am wrong about the coming hyper inflation."
-Reaper
Your not, print and spend equals inflation! My point is that gold has spiked and crashed HARD in the past. The stock market crash doesnt even compare. It seems to be that gold has a poor rate or return and is very risky.
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