During the 2000 presidential election, Joe Lieberman completely lost my respect through his cringing weakness during his Vice Presidential debate with Dick Cheney.
At one point, Lieberman said to Cheney: "You have certainly done well in business during the prosperity of the past eight Clinton years."
To which, Cheney replied: "Yes, I have done well. And the government had nothing at all to do with my success."
At that point, Lieberman sheepishly clammed up, and said no more. At which point, I began tearing my hair out. Lieberman's timid non-response helped cost Al Gore the presidency in 2000.
The fact is that the U. S. government had everything to do with Cheney's business success. He would have accomplished little or nothing in business without the government.
What Lieberman should have said is summarized in the following article published in 2002 in the LA Times:
Published on Tuesday, July 16, 2002 in the Los Angeles Times
Cheney's Grimy Trail in Business
His career offers a textbook example of shady doings.
by Robert Scheer
Vice President Dick Cheney has spent most of the past year in hiding, ostensibly from terrorists, but increasingly it seems obvious that it is Congress, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the media and the public he fears. And for good reason: Cheney's business behavior could serve as a textbook case of much of what's wrong with the way corporate CEOs have come to play the game of business.
The game involves more than playing loose with accounting rules, as Halliburton Co. is accused of doing while Cheney was the Texas-based energy company's chief executive.
On Sunday, SEC Chairman Harvey Pitt, whom Cheney pushed for the job, reluctantly turned on his sponsor and announced a vigorous investigation of Halliburton's accounting violations. Recent business scandals, however, are also the product of legal loopholes that allow firms to scoop up billions in unregulated profits.
It was just such loopholes that allowed the rise and subsequent fall of Enron and telecom heavyweights like WorldCom--in the process making CEOs like Dick Cheney very, very rich.
Recall that Cheney was a political hack for most of his professional life, first as a staffer in the Ford White House, then as a congressman for a decade and after that as secretary of Defense under the current president's father.
During the Clinton years, however, Cheney took an extremely lucrative five-year cruise into the private sector as chief executive of Halliburton.
After deciding, following an extensive search, that he would be George W. Bush's best candidate for vice president, Cheney resigned from the energy services company with a $36-million payoff for his final year of corporate service.
This journey from the public payroll to the corporate towers and back left a slimy trail of conflict-of-interest questions. For example, Defense Secretary Cheney conveniently changed the rules restricting private contractors doing work on U.S. military bases, allowing the Kellogg Brown & Root subsidiary of his future employer, Halliburton, to receive the first of $2.5 billion in contracts over the next decade. When Cheney left to become CEO of the entire company, he recruited his Pentagon military aide, Joe Lopez, to become senior vice president in charge of Pentagon dealings, which ultimately formed the most lucrative part of the otherwise ailing company's business.
Since returning to the public office, these disturbing patterns have continued.
In a scathing expose of Halliburton's military contracts, for example, the New York Times revealed that the vice president's old company had been the main beneficiary of the Pentagon's rush to build anti-terrorism military bases around the world. This new work will cost taxpayers many billions, and, according to Pentagon investigators' estimates, without any cost controls the final bill will be considerably higher than if the military's own construction units do the work.
Cheney denies having a role in securing those recent contracts, as he does knowledge of Halliburton's alleged accounting improprieties.
Unfortunately for Halliburton's stockholders and employees, parlaying his Pentagon contacts into profit has proved to be Cheney's only major business success.
In fact, CEO Cheney put Halliburton's future in doubt by engineering the acquisition of rival Dresser Industries, a move ballyhooed at the time as justification of his $2.2-million annual salary and massive stock options.
But the acquisition has proved to be a disaster because Halliburton assumed Dresser's long-term liability under asbestos lawsuits.
Even without the Dresser acquisition, Cheney was running a failing operation at Halliburton.
The company, despite the government gravy garnered, had earnings well below Wall Street's expectations--until it suddenly changed its accounting rules. By assuming it would be able to collect on cost overruns on myriad construction projects, Cheney's Halliburton was able to inflate profits by $234 million over a four-year period.
Halliburton failed to disclose its accounting shenanigans to the SEC or the company's investors for more than a year afterward, leading to more than a dozen lawsuits alleging fraud, including one by Judicial Watch.
And why are we not surprised that Halliburton's accounting firm was Arthur Andersen, earlier this year convicted of obstruction of justice for shredding documents in connection with Enron?
Andersen's dubious methods have become the disgrace of American accounting. Cheney, however, was sufficiently enamored with it that in 1996 he glowingly endorsed the accounting firm in a video, thanking it for going "over and above the just-sort-of-normal, by-the-books audit arrangement."
Of course, ordinary investors did not know they were getting less than "by-the-books" auditing.
It is especially ugly that the president and vice president, men in a position to know just how sketchy the accounting practices of public companies are, were so eager to make our Social Security system a vehicle for pouring individuals' retirement money into a stock market they knew to be a house of cards.
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"Senate Foreign Relations Committee blamed the Bush administration for failing to capture or kill Osama bin Laden when the al Qaeda leader was cornered in Afghanistan's Tora Bora mountain region in December 2001."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/29/bin.laden.2001/index.html
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Incompetent con bastards. What can they do right?
Did any of you read the article in Rolling Stone about McCaines illustrious war record and how many US planes he lost?
Should cons be allowed to do anything? Can't we pass an amendment barring them from any activity that affects others?
Excellent article CJP! Reminds me of a website that I visited and posted here some excerpts about this scum.
Then to think that they are rumors flying around that Cheney will run for presidency in 2012.
Why do many American adore the scum of the earth?
Thing is he was in his bunker most of the time while he was VP and kept his beak shut.
Since Obama took over, this SOB Cheney has done nothing but opening his beak along with his daughter Liz. Only filth comes out.
RayGun:
Thanks for the article, although talk and criticism for not catching Bin Laden in 2001 when they could have has been known for quite a few years. CNN's foreign correspondents talked about it on (you guess it) CNN. Good to see it finally written in a genuine report.
Wars are in the interest of the cons and big business that cater to the wars.
What I meant to say is that they probably didn't get Bin Laden because the war would then have been over in 2001. Now they're still raging on......
Strange that with a bounty of 25 million, Bin Laden is still on the loose. At least, that's what they say.
Cons like Cheney are evil incarnate, but wrap themselves with the cloak of God, and get away with it because they are against abortion. Their ultimate goal is to manipulate the mindless con masses, so as to acquire the wealth they think they deserve.
RayGun said...
"Cons like Cheney are evil incarnate, but wrap themselves with the cloak of God, and get away with it because they are against abortion. Their ultimate goal is to manipulate the mindless con masses, so as to acquire the wealth they think they deserve."
Right on the spot!!
"At least, that's what they say. "
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I agree A2. Watched "Hunting Party" yesterday which said the same thing about Radoslav Bogdanović, who had a 5 million dollar reward and remained free for years. At the end of the movie they mentioned Osama, and whether we are really trying to capture him or not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunting_Party_%282007_film%29
Lots of articles about Dick Cheney and the shady part of his dealings.
Here's a couple: http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-99564060.html
" Moneymaker: Fanning the Flames: Cheney's Halliburton Ties.(Dick Cheney)
Newsweek | April 7, 2003|
The stock market may be suffering, but Operation Iraqi Freedom has sure been good for business at Halliburton, the Houston oil-services company famous for its former CEO, Dick Cheney. The vice president hasn't entirely severed his financial ties to the big defense contractor. Even while Halliburton is scoring Army contracts that could top $2 billion, Cheney is still receiving annual compensation from the company he led from 1995 to August 2000, NEWSWEEK has learned."
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0403-10.htm
Excerpt:
"Note: In honor of Big Business Day 2003, Citizen Works will present Dick Cheney the "Daddy Warbucks" Award for eminence in corporate war profiteering on Friday, April 4"
I'm sure Obama will soon start releasing the documents detailing the BS we all know was going on with Cheney and company.
RayGun said...
"At the end of the movie they mentioned Osama, and whether we are really trying to capture him or not."
There are many websites about conspiracy theories about 9/11 whether Bin Laden is really responsible or not. Some claim it was a set up by Dubya's government.
Here's a video by CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corp) about 9/11.
Conspiracy theory about 9/11
Excellent. Draw your own conclusions.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2009-2010/the_unofficial_story/
I don't have sound. Something like 7 computers around me and not one with speakers.
Osama sure is handy to have around to terrify the soccer mom's and dad's.
Cons must all be in church today, praying for more money.
Here: listen to Cheney's daughter, Liz and hear how often she's disrespectful and interrupting the interviewer repeatedly.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30374059#30374059
She does that in all interviews she attends. She's just like her dear daddy, big beaks the both of them.
RayGun said...
Cons must all be in church today, praying for more money.
No RG. Just spending time with my wife and children. Believe it or not, I enjoy their company much more than anyone here. lol
There are many websites about conspiracy theories about 9/11 whether Bin Laden is really responsible or not. Some claim it was a set up by Dubya's government.
Anon2
Here we go again. Another conspiracy nut. I think Anon2 doesn't blog in Canada because no one pays attention to this pre-teen. Probably because she says these type of things:
Anon2 said...
PS: As a matter of fact, often people from other countries have a more objective view of what is happening in another country, especially if one is a neighbor and watching/hearing CNN daily for hours.
She also said this about Canada's health care:
Anon2 said...
"People (usually con supported) on USA TV ads are lying about our health care. ONLY PROBLEM IS SOME WAITING TIME, depending how urgent the case is."
She wishes deep down she was American. She wishes someone would pay attention to the silliness. She must really be learning alot from monitoring CNN all day and waiting for health care. I have to be totally honest with you. I have never ever even had a thought of blogging about Canadian politics. I don't even care about Canadian politicians. Anon2 is a one of a kind. Her life has become a study of America. Maybe she has a class report on America. If not the what a crappy life.
Bored and nothing but the same silly crap on this blog. The only thing new is that somehow the libs are worried about Cheney. I don't understand that at all. Cheney running in 2012??? Keep paying attention to him while Palin pulls the rug out from under you. I love it. I'll chat tomorrow if there is something interesting to talk about. I don't want to waste this day with this same lib cut and paste bs.
"Believe it or not, I enjoy their company much more than anyone here."
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Probably because you like ordering them around, like a normal con. :-)
I have to agree with HOTR on this one. Anon2: I don't understand the obsession with America. I don't feel that need or desire to get involved in Canadian politics. Why would I?
I did find this, however:
Social problems such as drugs, prostitution, gangs and homelessness in Western Canada's six biggest cities are getting worse, a report released Tuesday says.
Appearantly Canada has it's own problems and there are websites that ask for volunteers
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/caninfo/ep036.htm
So basically Anon2, maybe you could do the patriotic thing and give some of your time and energy to Canadian problems. You know, make your world a better place, starting with your own backyard.
WTF, Anon2. You can't even vote here.
"You can't even vote here. "
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We like your views Anon2, keep up the good work.
Man, Casey sounds grumpy again. You would think on the lords day she would be in a better mood. Maybe God was mad at her today.
"I don't want to waste this day with this same lib cut and paste bs. "
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Yes HOOT, you give us the same cut and paste also. Cut taxes, reduce regulation, let me be free, on and on. None of that shit works. W's disastrous decade proved it does not work. And now you are trying to do a cut and paste with dumber than a fence post Palin. She's exactly like w, except even dumber.
Cons think all you have to do is repeat crap over and over again, and it will become true. Cut taxes, reduce regulation, let me be free, on and on. Repeat, repeat, repeat. It's like a religion, and they are manipulating you like religion manipulates. Just keep the faith. Close your eyes and keep the faith. Ignore the truth. JC.
CJP, maybe you could post something about the Iranians new processing plants.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/world/middleeast/30iran.html?_r=1&hp
I know what the cons think, I am more curious about what the non cons think.
Cons and many Americans still believe that the Canadian government building is an igloo. LOL
Europe and many other countries consider Americans are in general dumb.
Like McCain he didn't know if Spain was an enemy or not, while Spanish troops have been fighting US wars at the side of the American troops. And that's MCCAIN who was nominated to run for president. LOL LOL LOL
You know very little about other countries. Stay in your own little USA world and stay dumb.
One day you'll know that you need other countries to lean on.....
Anon 2, I don't care where you live. You know more about the USA than most of these Cons do. Keep on making your excellent contributions here.
These Cons are being suckered and exploited by the Right-Wing media in this country, and they don't have a clue. The worst part is how they
allow themselves to be conned into opposing changes that would make their lives better, and supporting things that only help people in the
top economic brackets while hurting themselves.
Anon2 Please refer to my earlier post.
Now you are going to try to say that John McCain is stupid? Oh, I'm sure that you are so much more intelligent! (remember, I have read your posts!) Try again, silly girl. Try again...
Casey said...
"Now you are going to try to say that John McCain is stupid? "
He definitely isn't the smartest one around. One would expect more from a candidate running for president by knowing who your friends are. And that after so many years as a senator. Ouch! ;) Additionally, if he was smarter he wouldn't have chosen Palin. She "pailed" him. lol
He was smart though in marrying a rich woman and absolutely distasteful in having abandoned his 1st wife who was in a bad accident while he was a POW. She was badly hurt but waited for him. Guess McCain wanted to live it up after 7 years as a POW. He could have done that with his 1st wife.
CJP said...
"Anon 2, I don't care where you live. You know more about the USA than most of these Cons do. Keep on making your excellent contributions here."
Thanks CJP! Yes I do know a little about the USA because I've always been interested in other countries in addition to where I live now. Learning about other countries, their governments, religions, history, their people makes one more aware of that there exists more than one country. It makes one a bit more open minded especially if one has traveled a lot and lived in other countries.
We the human race have so much more in common than what divides us. Yet there are narrow minded people who refuse to accept that.
I love my country, blog and participate on forums, not only in Canada but also on European and American forums.
We are a world community of people and Americans better get used to it.
But then America isn't very friendly to even their own citizens by calling them African-Americans, Latinos, Asian Americans etc. Always prefixes to the name "American". Guess the fair way would be to call all whites European-American. You create divisions amongst yourself. You have to put people in boxes and label them otherwise you aren't at ease.
Why not drop the prefixes and call every citizen just Americans"?
He was smart though in marrying a rich woman and absolutely distasteful in having abandoned his 1st wife who was in a bad accident while he was a POW. She was badly hurt but waited for him. --Anon2
I suppose that you have studied Sen. McCain's marraige as well? I don't believe anyone knows what really goes on in a marriage besides the 2 people involved. You assume alot, Ms Tolerence and Open-mindedness! All this from someone who doesn't want to be judgemental.
As I said before, you are a piece of work!
Anyone who would have followed John McCain's campaign for presidency would have know all the stuff that I wrote about him and his wife.
Cons just believe what they wanna believe with their blinders on and drinking in the lies of Fox, Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Palin and all the rest of the pack.
What I do know, is that Sen McCain has been dissected and investigated. They have tried to find something---anything dishonest about him, and have never been able to find anything. I am from Arizona (31 yrs) and have listened to the Republicans slam him for being to liberal, and the liberals for his not being liberal enough.
John McCain is a decent man, and the worst that you can come up with is that his 1st marriage failed. Marriages fail. Read the book Anon2. He covers the failure of his first marriage, and he covers it with honesty and candor.
But you still claim to know more about the ancient history of the failure of his 1st marriage than he does. Pretty presumptuous of you, and for some reason that doesn't suprise me
Anon 2, I don't mind the hyphenated names at all. I think it's great.
To me, what it means is that America isn't simply one big Melting Pot, where everyone melts into a large homogenized stew.
Instead, everyone here is encouraged to hold on to their past, to maintain their own unique traditions, background, culture, language, foods, etc.
Just walk through the streets of New York and see all the different restaurants you can dine in --- from every corner of the world.
These differences enrich all Americans. Most Americans find joy and pleasure in enjoying each others' traditional and varying backgrounds.
Those people who turn these differences into ignorance, bigotry and prejudice are simply discordant noisemakers in what is otherwise a very beautiful symphony.
Fools will be fools. But the rest of us can see and enjoy a splendid cross-section of the world right here in our own neighborhoods.
Anon 2: We are all Americans first. We are a melting pot, but enjoy the traditions and cultures that brought us to where we are now. These things are to be celebrated and learned from.
Anon2 said...
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What I meant to say is that they probably didn't get Bin Laden because the war would then have been over in 2001. Now they're still raging on......"
Someone else (Hinchey) who has the very same thoughts I have.
Excerpt:
On Monday afternoon, Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-New York) told MSNBC host David Shuster that the Bush administration "intentionally let bin Laden get away" in order to justify the Iraq war.
Hinchey is from a historically Republican district (though it includes Democrat-heavy in places like Woodstock and Ithaca) and his statement seemed to shock Shuster.
"Look what happened. Look what happened with regard to our invasion into Afghanistan. How we apparently intentionally let bin Laden get away. How we intentionally did not follow the Taliban and al Qaeda."
Hinchey alleged that bin Laden was let go because "the previous administration... knew very well that if they would capture al Qaeda there would be no justification for an invasion in Iraq."
Get the whole article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/30/rep-hinchey-bush-adminini_n_374640.html
Well there you go Anon2---that just PROVES it. That's enough for me! A guy named Hinchey, that few have ever heard of, has figured it all out, and now we all know the truth. Of course, he waited a full 8 years to tell us this, and well, I suppose that there MUST be a very good reason for that. But Damn Bush, again!
So, when is Hinchey going to go in there and get Bin Ladin for us? He must know where he is, right? Maybe he can round up some Huffington Post guys and go in and take care of it.
There is a huge reward. Go Hinchey!
Well, Casey, you apparently have missed today's biggest news story. This is not just "a guy names Hinchey" talking. A US Senate Report has just been released which essentially says just what Hinchey is saying -- that the Bush administration let Bin Laden escape in 2001 when we had him cornered.
If we managed to find Saddam in a spiderhole, how do you think Bin Laden and his associates were so easily able to walk away from the battlefield when we had him trapped and he still remains at large eight years later?
I have put the Senate Report article up as my latest post.
You are right, CJP. I did miss this story, and to be honest with you, it doesn't suprise me. I am not a fan of Bush, and Rumsfield was an ass.
I don't believe that I have ever presented myself as a George Bush supporter.
Just one question, CJP...Do you think that we could have won this war a long time ago, if it hadn't been conducted like Viet Nam was? Seriously, don't you think that we had the capability?
I am not talking about Iraq. I think that was a mistake. I am talking about Afganistan
Well, it's very sad. When Bush took office, he walked into a situation of unprecedented peace and prosperity for this country.
When Bush left office, we had suffered the worst terrorist attack ever on US soil, our economy had virtually collapsed, Bin Laden had escaped, and Iran was moving to become a nuclear power (Bush had gotten rid of Saddam Hussein who was probably the main forcing holding Iran in check).
Bush was handed a beautiful situation, and he turned over an absolute mess to Obama.
Our economy is improving. Things are moving slowly, much more slowly than most people would like. But Obama was handed a very full plate and cleaning things up does take time. I'm willing to give Obama the time he needs, especially since I see that America's economic situation is improving -- painfully slowly but, at least, it's on the right track.
Casey, we absolutely could and should have won the War in Afghanistan a long time ago. It should have taken us no more than a year or two, at the most.
It's not that we conducted the Afghan War like Viet Nam. That was not the case. What we did was to pull most of our troops out of Afghanistan and divert them to fight in Iraq. We left very little power behind in Afghanistan to fight that war.
You saw the live video footage of American troops rolling through Iraq. If we had applied all that force and firepower in Afghanistan, where it belonged, Al Quaida and the Taliban would have been destroyed long ago.
No doubt, Iraq should have never happened, and I agree with you, we should have done what needed to be done in Afganistan and gotten out of there. I believe that unfortunately we must win this war or we will be inviting more attacks in the future. At this point, I would rather see us pull out of Iraq and take care of Afganistan. (bear with me. I am on Vicadin tonight---lost a filling this afternoon)I think that we are making the same mistakes as we did in VietNam. Fighting it halfassed
Here you and I are in total agreement, Casey. We must finish the job and win in Afghanistan -- and destroy Al Quaida and the Taliban.
I'm glad Obama is not giving in to the Far Left Peaceniks on this one. Afghanistan is the Right War, and Iraq was a big mistake.
Obama is sending 34,000 more troops -- close to what General McCrystal asked for. Hopefully, that will be enough for us to win over there.
As awful as it sounds to myself because I'm against wars:
I hope that the USA can win the war in the shortest amount of time and the least loss of troops and civilians.
The Russians invaded Afghanistan quite some time ago and had over 100 thousand troops fighting. They had to pull out. Their Vietnam
This ain't your regular war with uniforms on 2 sides. The enemy looks like a civilian, that's the crunch. What a way to fight a war by these poor uniformed allied soldiers. Way too much stress on them. The poppy's harvest turned into ...... pays for the war by the warlords and guess who is the consumer of that stuff? Yep, you bet, the USA with 90% consumption of it.
Aarrrggggghhhh
That is another reason why we have to win. the purity of the heroin that is coming out of Afganistan is so pure that it is killing and addicting at a much higher rate.
You are right Anon2, the Soviets tried this the conventional way and it did turn into a VietNam. Unfortunately, not sending the number of troops needed (by the guy in the field, who we must assume knows what is needed) and waiting 4 months to do so, fighting in a conventional manner, and fighting the war in respose to the poll numbers, all adds up to another VietNam
As awful as it sounds to myself because I'm against wars:---Anon2
I don't know anyone that likes war, the difference is that sometimes there are things that are worth fighting for. As unfortunate as that may be, the world as been, and is, full of some terrible people and terrible ideologies. We saw this with Hitler, and we see this again with this growing fundamentalist muslim movement.
You're quite right, Casey. We are dealing today with the rise of a new Hitler and a new Nazism -- the Fundamentalist Islamic Fascists.
They must be defeated and, as usual, the USA is the one country that is able to do the job.
However, we should be receiving much greater support from the overwhelming majority of the Moslem world because it is normal Moslems who are in the greatest danger from Islamic Fascists. If Islamic Fascists take over the Arab countries, it's the large local population of decent Moslems who will suffer the most.
We saw that in Afghanistan when the Taliban held power, and now in the Gaza Strip under Hamas.
Then. again, if they can send us a batch of nice fine pure heroin before they go, then we'll gladly forgive them for some of their sins.
"They must be defeated "
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CJ, how do you defeat delusion?
Seems a start is, we need to point out the delusion. Many of us are trying to do just that, on both sides of the ocean.
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