Friday, November 27, 2009

The Bible Should Be Taught In Medical Schools as well as in Creationist Science Classes

Conservatives degrade, debase and insult the Holy Bible by insisting that Creationism be taught in public school science classes alongside the Theory of Evolution (which, after all, is only a theory) -- while omitting other, equally important sections of the Bible.

How offensive to God are these vain creatures of Kansas by not insisting that the Holy Bible also be studied in medical school.

As important as Creationism might be, how can it possibly compare to the following indispensable dermatological treatments which should by Divine Right be taught today in every American medical school.

Do you want real health care reform? How about Biblical Dermatology? Here it is:


Leviticus 13
Infections on the Skin

13:1 The Lord spoke to Moses and Aaron: 13:2 “When someone has1 a swelling2 or a scab3 or a bright spot4 on the skin of his body5 that may become a diseased infection,6 he must be brought to Aaron the priest or one of his sons, the priests.7 13:3 The priest must then examine the infection8 on the skin of the body, and if the hair9 in the infection has turned white and the infection appears to be deeper than the skin of the body,10 then it is a diseased infection,11 so when the priest examines it12he must pronounce the person unclean.13

A Bright Spot on the Skin

13:4 “If14 it is a white bright spot on the skin of his body, but it does not appear to be deeper than the skin,15 and the hair has not turned white, then the priest is to quarantine the person with the infection for seven days.16 13:5 The priest must then examine it on the seventh day, and if,17 as far as he can see, the infection has stayed the same18 and has not spread on the skin,19 then the priest is to quarantine the person for another seven days.20 13:6 The priest must then examine it again on the seventh day,21 and if22 the infection has faded and has not spread on the skin, then the priest is to pronounce the person clean.23 It is a scab,24 so he must wash his clothes25 and be clean. 13:7 If, however, the scab is spreading further26 on the skin after he has shown himself to the priest for his purification, then he must show himself to the priest a second time. 13:8 The priest must then examine it,27 and if28 the scab has spread on the skin, then the priest is to pronounce the person unclean.29 It is a disease.

A Swelling on the Skin

13:9 “When someone has a diseased infection,30 he must be brought to the priest. 13:10 The priest will then examine it,31 and if32 a white swelling is on the skin, it has turned the hair white, and there is raw flesh in the swelling,33 13:11 it is a chronic34 disease on the skin of his body,35 so the priest is to pronounce him unclean.36 The priest37 must not merely quarantine him, for he is unclean.3813:12 If, however, the disease breaks out39 on the skin so that the disease covers all the skin of the person with the infection40 from his head to his feet, as far as the priest can see,41 13:13 the priest must then examine it,42 and if43 the disease covers his whole body, he is to pronounce the person with the infection clean.44 He has turned all white, so he is clean.45 13:14 But whenever raw flesh appears in it46 he will be unclean, 13:15 so the priest is to examine the raw flesh47 and pronounce him unclean48 – it is diseased. 13:16 If, however,49 the raw flesh once again turns white,50 then he must come to the priest. 13:17 The priest will then examine it,51 and if52 the infection has turned white, the priest is to pronounce the person with the infection clean53 – he is clean.

A Boil on the Skin

13:18 “When someone’s body has a boil on its skin54 and it heals, 13:19 and in the place of the boil there is a white swelling or a reddish white bright spot, he must show himself to the priest.55 13:20The priest will then examine it,56 and if57 it appears to be deeper than the skin58 and its hair has turned white, then the priest is to pronounce the person unclean.59 It is a diseased infection that has broken out in the boil.60 13:21 If, however,61 the priest examines it, and62 there is no white hair in it, it is not deeper than the skin, and it has faded, then the priest is to quarantine him for seven days.63 13:22 If64it is spreading further65 on the skin, then the priest is to pronounce him unclean.66 It is an infection.13:23 But if the bright spot stays in its place and has not spread,67 it is the scar of the boil, so the priest is to pronounce him clean.68

A Burn on the Skin

13:24 “When a body has a burn on its skin69 and the raw area of the burn becomes a reddish white or white bright spot, 13:25 the priest must examine it,70 and if71 the hair has turned white in the bright spot and it appears to be deeper than the skin,72 it is a disease that has broken out in the burn.73 The priest is to pronounce the person unclean.74 It is a diseased infection.75 13:26 If, however,76 the priest examines it and77 there is no white hair in the bright spot, it is not deeper than the skin,78 and it has faded, then the priest is to quarantine him for seven days.79 13:27 The priest must then examine it on the seventh day, and if it is spreading further80 on the skin, then the priest is to pronounce him unclean. It is a diseased infection.81 13:28 But if the bright spot stays in its place, has not spread on the skin,82 and it has faded, then it is the swelling of the burn, so the priest is to pronounce him clean,83 because it is the scar of the burn.

Scall on the Head or in the Beard

13:29 “When a man or a woman has an infection on the head or in the beard,84 13:30 the priest is to examine the infection,85 and if86 it appears to be deeper than the skin87 and the hair in it is reddish yellow and thin, then the priest is to pronounce the person unclean.88 It is scall,89 a disease of the head or the beard.90 13:31 But if the priest examines the scall infection and it does not appear to be deeper than the skin,91 and there is no black hair in it, then the priest is to quarantine the person with the scall infection for seven days.92 13:32 The priest must then examine the infection on the seventh day, and if93 the scall has not spread, there is no reddish yellow hair in it, and the scall does not appear to be deeper than the skin,94 13:33 then the individual is to shave himself,95 but he must not shave the area affected by the scall,96 and the priest is to quarantine the person with the scall for another seven days.97 13:34 The priest must then examine the scall on the seventh day, and if98 the scall has not spread on the skin and it does not appear to be deeper than the skin,99 then the priest is to pronounce him clean.100 So he is to wash his clothes and be clean. 13:35 If, however, the scall spreads further101 on the skin after his purification, 13:36 then the priest is to examine it, and if102 the scall has spread on the skin the priest is not to search further for reddish yellow hair.103 The person104is unclean. 13:37 If, as far as the priest can see, the scall has stayed the same105 and black hair has sprouted in it, the scall has been healed; the person is clean. So the priest is to pronounce him clean.106

Bright White Spots on the Skin

13:38 “When a man or a woman has bright spots – white bright spots – on the skin of their body,13:39 the priest is to examine them,107 and if108 the bright spots on the skin of their body are faded white, it is a harmless rash that has broken out on the skin. The person is clean.109

Baldness on the Head

13:40 “When a man’s head is bare so that he is balding in back,110 he is clean. 13:41 If his head is bare on the forehead111 so that he is balding in front,112 he is clean. 13:42 But if there is a reddish white infection in the back or front bald area, it is a disease breaking out in his back or front bald area.13:43 The priest is to examine it,113 and if114 the swelling of the infection is reddish white in the back or front bald area like the appearance of a disease on the skin of the body,115 13:44 he is a diseased man. He is unclean. The priest must surely pronounce him unclean because of his infection on his head.116

The Life of the Person with Skin Disease

13:45 “As for the diseased person who has the infection,117 his clothes must be torn, the hair of his head must be unbound, he must cover his mustache,118 and he must call out ‘Unclean! Unclean!’13:46 The whole time he has the infection119 he will be continually unclean. He must live in isolation, and his place of residence must be outside the camp.


As you can see, I always wanted my son to be a doctor.

Thank you, Leo, for graciously supplying Chapter and Verse.

110 comments:

RayGun said...

CJP, if you are so inclined, please read some of these quotes.

http://www.evilbible.com/Evil%20Bible%20Quotes.htm

Great source, for putting all the crazyness of the bible in one spot.


Also, Kristoff (NYTimes) had a really popular article today or yesterday about religion and mentioned Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris. I have at least 5 of their books in my home. I don't agree with Kristoff except about ??? percent in that article (although he is really concerned about the poor in his articles generally), and agree with the 3 fore mentioned authors at least 98 percent.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/26/opinion/26kristof.html?em

Anon2 said...

The priests in that article were doctors....

Means that eons ago, there was health care in Moses' country.

Not now for everyone in the "in God we trust" country.

RayGun said...

Anon2, our cons hate the poor, even though their good book tells them to love the poor. Isn't that craziness?

Anon2 said...

Raygun, they interpret the bible their way.

I as a Liberal interpret from the new testament that Jesus was a social democrat. He cared for the poor and sick, healed many and fed everyone in his presence. He got angry in the temple and threw the money launderers out because it was sabbath and these greedy ones were doing business there.

Therefore, I must assume that the CONS don't accept Jesus because they do the opposite of what was written.

RayGun said...

"Therefore, I must assume that the CONS don't accept Jesus because they do the opposite of what was written."
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They claim to accept Jesus A2, but they don't read much, I guess. Or their ministers are paid big bucks to keep the flock happy and tell them what they want to hear. It's a really screwed up deal A2, and the US, and the world has to live with it. We all need to come out of the closets about religion, as many don't really believe.

How can the believers believe, have faith, and act as they do?

Casey said...

Really? Is that why we have so many religious charitable organizations? Give me the name of 1---just 1 Atheist charity.

RayGun said...

"Really? Is that why we have so many religious charitable organizations? Give me the name of 1---just 1 Atheist charity."
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Case darling, the entire amount given by religious groups per year is around 90 billion. Comon Case, think what all the libs give to the poor in the US through Medicaid, food stamps, housing, etc. Plus the new health care alone is supposed to cost around 100 billion for the uninsured. JC.

RayGun said...

And Case, I don't agree with Lennons second parts of Imagine:

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

Casey said...

There you are wrong RG. The amounts that you claim that the liberals give is "given" through taxes levied on all of us. This is not considered "charity". Again. The name of 1 atheist charity, please.

Casey said...

And Case, I don't agree with Lennons second parts of Imagine:

Right. John Lennon didn't believe in it either. He had a pretty great standard of living (which is his right, as he earned it)I don't know what joining "us" he was referring to.

RayGun said...

"atheist charity"
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JC, Case, it's comon knowledge that libs are at least faking agnostics. All except Carter... Ironic...

Casey said...

So you are saying that liberals are liars? Most of the libs that I know claim to be either Christian or Jewish...
Agnostic is not the same as atheist. So I guess that what you are saying is that you cannot think of 1 single athiest charity.

RayGun said...

Comon Case, God is not real, lets move on from there.

I can agree with cons on many points, especially guns.

I want the ability to protect myself, as its not the cops job, protecting us. (Cops respond, they don't protect)

Casey said...

Anon2, our cons hate the poor, even though their good book tells them to love the poor. Isn't that craziness?---RG

I don't mean to be a drag, RG. I just needed to point something out. You stated that cons hate the poor in spite of what the Bible tells them. However there are multitudes of religous charities to help the poor. Then you say that the world would be a better place if there was no religion, but you can't think of a single atheist charity.
I don't know RG. I think that I would hate to leave the poorest of the world to the atheists. Doesn't seem that they care that much.

RayGun said...

Comon Case, I am an atheist and I care.

I am somewhat like Bono. But I can not speak for Bono.

CJP said...

Casey, how many atheist organizations are there? Very few, if any, compared to religious organizations.

As individuals, I'm sure that atheists are just as charitable as religious people are. After all, if atheists don't believe in God, then they do believe that human beings are the only ones who can make this world a better place -- there is no Higher Being that people can turn to to do Man's work for him. Therefore, it is up to man to help his fellow man -- there is no Unseen Spirit in the sky who will swoop down to help.

Anon2 said...

What John Lennon meant when he wrote and sang " and no religion too" is that there were/are too many wars (deaths, pain) because of religion. Too many wars due to borders, expansionism of borders (greed/power).

I could go on and on but the cons will never get it because their motto is avarice and materialism.

I say: Growing old is inevitable, growing up is optional.

You'll then discover that material things mean nothing and peace means everything.

Casey said...

BTW. Bono is a believer. (just in case you were not aware)

"The point of the death of Christ is that Christ took on the sins of the world, so that what we put out did not come back to us, and that our sinful nature does not reap the obvious death. That’s the point. It should keep us humbled… It’s not our own good works that get us through the gates of Heaven."---Bono

My whole point was that you said that cons only care about religion, but hate poor people. But I think that the number of Christian charities shows that statement to be incorrect.

RayGun said...

"BTW. Bono is a believer. (just in case you were not aware)"
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U dont know Bono...

RayGun said...

U dont know Bono... , ask BB..

Casey said...

Sorry. I guess now you must consider Bono to be stupid, since he believes strongly in "imaginary beings" And Clapton, and George Harrison, and Dylan...

Casey said...

No. I don't know Bono. But you can Google it. I just gave you an exact quote. Sounds like a believer to me! Sorry that I had to burst your bubble.

RayGun said...

"Sorry. I guess now you must consider Bono to be stupid, since he believes strongly in "imaginary beings" And Clapton, and George Harrison, and Dylan... "
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Comon Case sweetums, listen to the words... I know what Bono is saying..

RayGun said...

No. I don't know Bono.
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Case, Agreed. You are correct.

Casey said...

Okay. If you are hearing messages in his songs that tell you that he doesn't believe, maybe it's you who is not understanding.
Bono is a member of the Anglican Church of Ireland, his father was Catholic. He is a strong believer.
Sorry RG.

RayGun said...

Sorry, Case and BB,

I think I know Bono...

U don't know what he is saying...

Casey said...

Ooops! Your bubble has been burst. You are a fan of a Christian! That must really piss you off!

RayGun said...

"Ooops! Your bubble has been burst. You are a fan of a Christian! That must really piss you off! "
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Oh Gd, sure u got me...

Take me into your world. Walk me into your land of fairy tales..

RayGun said...

JCcomon Case, its all not true.

Casey said...

I'm sorry Rg. I just think that it must be hard to live in a world of generalizations. All cons are alike, everyone that believes in God is stupid. You and Anon2 put everyone in boxes with little lables, condeming them for being "wrong" because they may have a different opinion than you do. Everyone that doesn't believe as you do is evil (well, actually, that's more Anon2 than you)
As I said before, I am not here to convert you. You can be an atheist and it doesn't bother me one little bit.

Casey said...

Let's face it RG. There are good atheists, and there are bad Christians. That's life and it has more to do with the heart of the person than what their beliefs are.
There are some conservatives that I like, and there are others that I don't agree with. Same with Liberals, but to generalize is to miss out on some very rich and rewarding relationships.

RayGun said...

"There are good atheists, and there are bad Christians"
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Case, the good book says to help the poor and despise money. Does that sound like any con you know? Isn't it a little scary to have leaders who profess to believe in this all powerful imaginary being, that tells them quite clearly to help the poor and despise money, and then said leaders do just the opposite? Are you cons just trying to scare us? Seems any sane person would be a little nervous at least. Ahhh, more subtle terror tactics, I get you now :-)

Casey said...

the good book says to help the poor and despise money. Does that sound like any con you know? --RG

Examples, please, of these terrible cons that don't give to the poor. Seriously. And the Bible doesn't say that you are to "despise money". Give me that chapter and verse.

Casey said...

And RG---what was the last thing that you did for the poor?

RayGun said...

And RG---what was the last thing that you did for the poor?
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Voted all democrat.

RayGun said...

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Matthew 6:24

RayGun said...

"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Matthew 6:24

Sorry Case, looks like you have to be a democrat.

Casey said...

No RG. That is not "do for the poor". (see the top 10 dem counties and the prverty levels)

What do they all have in common? All ten have either never elected a Republican or have not elected one in at least 20 years. Another big shocker, our very own Newark is on that list.

1) Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
2) Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected one since 1954;
3) Cincinnati, OH (3rd)… …………………..since 1984;
4) Cleveland, OH (4th)… …………………..since 1989;
5) Miami, FL (5th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
6) St. Louis, MO (6th)…. ……………………since 1949;
7) El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican Mayor;
Milwaukee, WI (8th)… ……………………since 1908;
9) Philadelphia, PA (9th)…………………….since 1952;
10) Newark, NJ (10th)… ……………………..since 1907.

http://livingjersey.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/americas-top-ten-poorest-cities/

RayGun said...

Good God, Case has gone of the deep end.

Case, look up cognitive dissonance. I think the term is one of the afflictions most religious cons suffer.

Casey said...

What? You can't handle seeing the facts in front of you? Oh. I got it. This makes ME crazy, right?
I forgot. You guys don't like to see the facts.

Casey said...

By the way. serving 2 masters does not mean that you are to "despise money". It simply means that the love of money can't be put above the love of God.

RayGun said...

By the way. serving 2 masters does not mean that you are to "despise money".
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JC, Case, you argueing with Gods Apostle?


"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Matthew 6:24

hispanicontheright said...

RayGun said...
Good God, Case has gone of the deep end.

Case, look up cognitive dissonance. I think the term is one of the afflictions most religious cons suffer.


RG loves to ignore the facts. Dems rule poverty stricken areas and the poor still vote for them.
"If you rob Peter to pay Paul you will always have Paul's support."

Casey said...

Yeah, I notice that we are now focusing on the Bible verse.
let me give you another:
(1 Timothy 6:10)
the Apostle Paul's First Epistle to Timothy in the New Testament: "The love of money is the root of all evil"

But more interestingly, how 'bout those Dems, and the love of the poor?

hispanicontheright said...

Looks the dems love money as much as everyone else. Recently a dem politician was even convictly of bribery and got 13 years in jail. Dems, he had $90k cash in his freezer. I think he loved money.

According to the Hill’s yearly ‘50 Rich List’ seven of the 10 lawmakers are Democrats. However, of the 50; 24 are Republicans and 26 are Democrats.

The following is an accounting of the top 10 richest lawmakers;

#1 Senator John Kerry-(D Mass.) is worth $167.8 million with his wife/ $750 million.

#2 Congressman Darrell Issa-(R Calif.) is worth $164.8 million

#3 Congresswoman Jane Harmon-(D Calif.) is worth $112.2 million

#4 Senator Jay Rockefeller-(D W. Va.) is worth $80.4 million

#5 Congressman Jared Polis-(D Colo.) is worth $71.2 million

#6 Congressman Vern Buchanan-(R Fla.) is worth $50.2 million

#7 Senator Diane Feinstein-(D Calif.) is worth $43.6 million

#8 Congressman Harry Teague-(D N.Mex.) is worth $40.3 million

#9 Congressman Michael McCaul-(R Tex.) is worth $38.2 million

#10 Congressman Alan Grayson-(D Fla.) is worth $31 million

Casey said...

There you go again. Facts.

hispanicontheright said...

I think RG gets paid in peanuts because he hates money so much. Or at least that's what he wants us to believe for some reason.

Casey said...

Hey, HOTR, did you see how much Biden has donated to charity over the past 20 years? Something like $1,600.00---over 20 years!!! And Biden is one "lover of the poor"

hispanicontheright said...

Biden doesn't want to donate his own money. He wants to tax it from us and then give to the poor. He likes to keep the poor in their place.

Casey said...

And Obama's best bud, Valerie Jarret? She loves the poor SOOOOO much, that her low income (sec 8)apartment building got a 4 out of 11 score from the health dept. It has finally been condemed...Gotta love those poor people

Casey said...

Yeah, they want to raise our taxes to give to the poor. While they get richer and richer holding public office (gee, still wondering how that happens :)But they abuse the poor at every turn. Damned poor section 8 people! What's wrong with a few rats? They should just be glad that they have a place to live. Ingrates~!

hispanicontheright said...

Dems have no use for informed and educated people. They love the poor and uneducated because they can control them easily by giving them some free money. Great way to kill ambition, motivation and self-respect. All they have to talk about is waiting for the day the check comes in the mail. I've seen generation after generation have nothing else to talk about but waiting for their check. It's a shame what the democrats have done to them.

Casey said...

Oops, HOTR. They must be on the Huffington Post trying to find another BS article to support their position.

Casey said...

WASHINGTON — Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden and his wife gave an average of $369 a year to charity during the past decade, his tax records show.

Last year, Cheney and his wife, Lynne Cheney, donated more than $166,000 to charity, or about 5.5% of their income, according to the Chronicle of Philanthropy.

John McCain reported giving more than $202,000 — a quarter of his income — to charity in 2006 and 2007, the only years for which his campaign released his tax returns. His campaign didn't release information about his wife's charitable contributions, however. In 2006, her total itemized tax deductions, a category which includes charitable contributions and other deductible items such as mortgage interest, was $569,737, or 9.3% of her income.

Then-Vice President Al Gore came under fire when his 1997 tax return showed only $353 in donations to charity;
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-12-biden-financial_N.htm

Wow. Those damned cons. They really hate poor people!!!

RayGun said...

"I've seen generation after generation have nothing else to talk about but waiting for their check. It's a shame what the democrats have done to them."
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There goes HOOTER again. As we all know Clinton limited welfare to a lifetime cap of 5 years.

RayGun said...

Again, all cons giving to churches amounted to around 70 billion. After you pay the ministers 60k per year and pay for those big fancy churches, there's not really that much left for the poor. Oh and lets not forget the billions certain churches are paying in pedophile lawsuits.

Casey said...

But we are talking about how much the Dems love the poor. How much they care. You claim that Dems love the poor more than the cons do. I have just given you examples of cons vs. dems and the pattern of giving. You say that cons hate the poor and love money more. I see where McCain gave 25% of his income to charity, that is over and above taxes.

RayGun said...

"You say that cons hate the poor and love money more."
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You do. You don't want to spend a paltry 100 billion to insure everyone. 54 thousand die per year because they don't have insurance. Harvard study.

Casey said...

Jack Hadley and his colleagues estimate, “If all uninsured people were fully covered [in 2008], their medical spending would increase by $122.6 billion.” If we assume that the cost of covering the uninsured will grow at the same rate the federal government assumes for all health spending growth (6.2 percent), then from 2010 through 2019, the cost of covering the uninsured would be $1.8 trillion.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/05/26/how-much-will-universal-coverage-cost/

That program wouldn't be in place until 2014. Guess people will continue to die until then.

hispanicontheright said...

RayGun said...
"You say that cons hate the poor and love money more."
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You do. You don't want to spend a paltry 100 billion to insure everyone. 54 thousand die per year because they don't have insurance. Harvard study.

More fake studies from RG.

RayGun said...

"the cost of covering the uninsured would be $1.8 trillion."
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Case, sweet cakes, 36 other countries have better health care than we do, at half the cost. Government will rein in the costs as 36 other countries governments have. Doctors currently get paid depending on what they bill. You following the logic?

Casey said...

Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Rf42zNl9U

This guy only had headaches, so it wasn't considered pressing in Canada. His MRI was a 4.5 mo wait since it was only headaches. Trip to a hospital in Buffalo NY, got him an immediate MRI and guess what? He had a brain tumor.
Is that what we need for our money, RG?

hispanicontheright said...

Case, sweet cakes, 36 other countries have better health care than we do, at half the cost. Government will rein in the costs as 36 other countries governments have. Doctors currently get paid depending on what they bill. You following the logic?

Which countries RG?

hispanicontheright said...

Please don't tell me Cuba is one of them.

hispanicontheright said...

RayGun said...
"I've seen generation after generation have nothing else to talk about but waiting for their check. It's a shame what the democrats have done to them."
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There goes HOOTER again. As we all know Clinton limited welfare to a lifetime cap of 5 years.


That's strange RG. I just this weekend spent time with a family member who's been recieving welfare for many more than 5 years. The loophole was simply to have another child. The mandatory part was to have it out of wedlock. Kid will have a great future. He'll go to a school with no standards of education. He'll pass the classes even though he is not up to standard. Social promotion the democrats gift to the poor. He'll graduate even though he can't read. Then he can complain when he can't compete for a job. Then the dems will say it's the republicans fault.

Casey said...

Government will rein in the costs as 36 other countries governments have. ---RG

Please RG, give me 1 example of government "reining in costs".
Oh. maybe by telling women that they dont need mamograms until the age of 50, and then only every 2-3 years?

hispanicontheright said...

RG is the king of hit and run bullshit. He'll say things and never respond to an easy question.

Casey said...

I think that he might still be PO'd at finding out that Bono is a Christian! LOL, RG. I can't let that one go!

RayGun said...

Once again Casey, my sweet nut, I know Bono and Mother Theresa (shes dead) are both Christians. I can live with them, as they help the poor.

And Bonos a little more complicated than a plain ol vanilla Christian.

Off to set up the Christmas tree. Preparing for the pagan holiday that businessmen commandeered in the name of You Know Who.

Casey said...

Christmas tree? Isn't that a bit of hypocrasy, RG?

RayGun said...

Ahh, setting up the old Christmas tree whilst getting totally snocked. I love the holidays.

RayGun said...

GD, takes a little while to set up the tree I see.

Crazy cons, do know how Christmas got started and why it's meaning changed?

Casey said...

Okay. I'll do this one. Ancient pagan holiday, begining in Rome, celebrating the sun god. Gifts given in celebration. Each part of the world bringing different meanings to each symbol (ie: wreaths, holly, and the rest)yata, yata, yata.
With the birth of Christianity, these pagan things were absorbed into Christmas (Chist + mass)
So who cares?

RayGun said...

Comon Case, close to the winter solstice. Why would mankind need some grand holiday around the winter solstice?

Casey said...

As I said. This was a pagan celebration of the sun. Changes in the length of the days symbolized the re-birth of the sun.
Whatever, RG. I am in a crappy mood tonight, I think.

RayGun said...

'RG. I am in a crappy mood tonight, I think. "
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Sorry, I know HOOTER can be annoying sometimes.

What are your favorite movies?

Casey said...

Don't forget RG. I read more than the average person, I am pretty intelligent, I have a degree, and I am well above average in looks. Things aren't easier for good looking people.
People like you assume that they aren't as smart as less good looking people. :)

RayGun said...

With food stamp use at record highs and climbing every month, a program once scorned as a failed welfare scheme now helps feed one in eight Americans and one in four children.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/29/us/29foodstamps.html?_r=1&hp

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Can this be true? What have you crazy cons wrought upon us?

hispanicontheright said...

RayGun said...
'RG. I am in a crappy mood tonight, I think. "
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Sorry, I know HOOTER can be annoying sometimes.

Awww.....I know you guys love me. lol

RayGun said...

Things aren't easier for good looking people.
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Comon Case, Dimwit Palin won second place in the miss frigid contest. There is some truth to what I say.

RayGun said...

I told all everyone I lived 7 years in Alaska? Hunted, fished, killed at least 2 of everything up there. I have record for a Kodiak Brown Bear. Within a few centimeters of skull size of being an all time record.

I changed my ways. Although I still like guns for defense.

Killed a pit bull out bike riding not too long ago. Cops told me good job. Swear its true, on a stack of bibles.

RayGun said...

What are your favorite movies Case?

hispanicontheright said...

NYS libs hate guns RG. Libs wouldn't like you here.

Casey said...

All time favorites?
1. Days of Wine & Roses--sappy, but one of first to address alcoholism. Jack Lemmon=genius actor
2. Shindlers List
3. Joy Luck Club-big fan of Amy Tan
(total chick flick)
4. Pulp Fiction

RayGun said...

Case, I like 2 and 4. Haven't seen 1.
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Have you seen Unforgiven? There are so many out there that I like, but that one generally pops to the top of my list. Raging Bull? Across the Universe is one of my all time favorites. So many. How about The Abyss? How about Lord of the Rings? Seen any of those?

Casey said...

I have seen Across the Universe and Raging Bull. Both very good. It is hard. There are so many.
Days of Wine & Roses is one of Jack Lemmons finest performances. Will make a grown man cry. Joy Luck Club; about 3 Asian womens struggles from Revolutionary China to America. Beautiful Cinematography. Never saw Lord of the Rings, but read the books.

Casey said...

How 'bout all time favorite musical groups or performers?

RayGun said...

Never saw Lord of the Rings
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JC Case, watch it. The 3 movies. Its mostly a metaphor about good and evil, and the reluctant king (Viggo Mortenson, aka Jesus (my opinion)). Outstanding trilogy. The last one won best picture.

RayGun said...

"How 'bout all time favorite musical groups or performers?"
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U2,Radio Head,Cold Play is pretty good, Moody Blues, Fleet Foxes,hmmm,quite a few albums, hmm, Lennon of course,The Best of Queen, lots of others.

RayGun said...

What are your favorite books Case? (Not often I ask a con that question)

Casey said...

*Clapton--going back to Cream and then forward
*Beatles-3 musical geniuses & a drummer
*The Cure
*Spirit

RayGun said...

Case rent U2, "Rattle and Hum". Outstanding. Beatles, Dillon, Lots of others, performed by U2.

It's a watch and listen album. Again, really, really good. Especially since you like the Beatles.

Casey said...

Books...
Just finished 1 called "The Heretics Daughter"--unbelievable
The Haj--Leon Uris
She's Come Undone--Wally Lamb
Trinity--Leon Uris
Angela's Ashes
Shogun

Casey said...

I love the old Bob Dylan. He was amazing. First Rappish-type song: Subterranean Homesick Blues. Freewheeling Bob Dylan. 1 of his first albums

RayGun said...

Chick Books, except for ShoGun :-)

JC, men and women are so different in this stuff.

Ever hear of Carmac McCarthy?

Blood Meridian, No Country for Old Men, The Road.

The Road has already won a Pulitzer, and is a movie with Viggo Morgesson, being released in the next few weeks.

The book, The Road, is incredible. Very depressing some may say.

RayGun said...

Not that familiar with Dillon. Rattle and Hum is incredible. Mostly black and white, but a modern black and white. Some color songs, so you know the black and white was done on purpose.

Casey said...

No. Leon Uris wrote Exodus. He writes unbelievable historical fiction. Trinity is about Ireland late 1800's to about 1910. Catholic vs. Protestant Ireland.
The Haj is one that deals with the middle east. pre WWII to modern times. You would probably enjoy that one. I don't read alot of chick books. Usually can't stand the type of woman that reads romance novels!!!

Anon2 said...

Casey said...

"Last year, Cheney and his wife, Lynne Cheney, donated more than $166,000 to charity, or about 5.5% of their income, according to the Chronicle of Philanthropy."

Read about Cheney how he made his fortune. http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0716-04.htm

A few excerpts: "The game involves more than playing loose with accounting rules, as Halliburton Co. is accused of doing while Cheney was the Texas-based energy company's chief executive."

"It was just such loopholes that allowed the rise and subsequent fall of Enron and telecom heavyweights like WorldCom--in the process making CEOs like Dick Cheney very, very rich."

The donation he gave must have been peanuts compared to the wealth he accumulated through loopholes.

John McCain cheated on his first wife to marry a wealthy woman. Here's an excerpt:

"She was born and raised in Phoenix, Arizona as the daughter of wealthy beer distributor Jim Hensley." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_McCain

Easy to donate more than an average person if one's filthy rich.

Casey said...

Anon2. Get a grip! John McCain came home from 7 years as a POW. That would change anyone, and ruin many a marriage! He did not cheat on his wife to marry a wealthy woman. McCain was far from a poor man. He was raised with priviledge. Cindy McCain is wealthy in her won right, but does much for charity. Almost 10% of her income! (I am from Arizona. I know McCain)
But you missed the point (as usual) you claim that all cons love money and hate poor people, and the liberals are the lovers of the poor. I gave you FACTS (know what those are?) on who has given more between 2 liberals; 2 conservatives. Your liberals gave FAR LESS. Take off your blinders, please.

Casey said...

Easy to donate more than an average person if one's filthy rich.---Anon2

The examples that I gave you were 4 wealthy people. Biden is wealthy, Gore is wealthy, too. So if it is so damned easy, then why did they give so little?

RayGun said...

"Cindy McCain is wealthy.."
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And fairly hot in her own right. Hot and rich :-)

Casey said...

Yes, RG. Hot and rich. :)

RayGun said...

I like Megan McCaine also. Shes the new right I think?

Casey said...

Yes. More like her father than you would guess. He was not another Bush.

RayGun said...

Regarding McCaine. I loved the first McCaine that ran for president. The second one really really sucked.

Casey said...

That is only because he was running up against the "just like Bush" BS.
But you are right, he didn't have the spunk that he used to have.

CJP said...

Anon 2, thank you for sending me that excellent article on Dick Cheney's business dealings. I have put the article up as a post on my site.

It's an article that deserves a much wider audience, and I'll try to do my bit to have more people see it. Thank you for sending it here.

Anon2 said...

CJP said:

"Anon 2, thank you for sending me that excellent article on Dick Cheney's business dealings. I have put the article up as a post on my site.

It's an article that deserves a much wider audience, and I'll try to do my bit to have more people see it. Thank you for sending it here."

Thanks CJP. I appreciate it. It's important that the truth about Cheney comes out, especially now that there are rumors that he may be running for president in 2012.

CJP said...

Cheney would be a worse president than Palin -- but he is coherent, and he's convincing.

Darth Vader in the White House.

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