Sunday, December 6, 2009

More Good Economic News For Obama

U.S. Forecasts Smaller Loss From Bailout of Banks

By JACKIE CALMES
Published: December 6, 2009 -- The New York Times

WASHINGTON — The Treasury Department expects to recover all but $42 billion of the $370 billion it has lent to ailing companies since the financial crisis began last year, with the portion lent to banks actually showing a slight profit, according to a new Treasury report.

Treasury officials said the government had lost roughly $30 billion to the insurance giant American International Group.
The new assessment of the $700 billion bailout program, provided by two Treasury officials on Sunday ahead of a report to Congress on Monday, is vastly improved from the Obama administration’s estimates last summer of $341 billion in potential losses from the Troubled Asset Relief Program. That figure anticipated more financial troubles requiring intervention.

The officials said the government could ultimately lose $100 billion more from the bailout program in new loans to banks, aid to troubled homeowners and credit to small businesses.

Still, the new estimates would lower the administration’s deficit forecast for this fiscal year, which began in October, to about $1.3 trillion, from $1.5 trillion.

The report could tamp down some of the public anger directed against both parties over the bailouts. Congressional leaders are already planning to use some of the program’s money for economic stimulus and job creation.

Of course, the government’s potential losses extend beyond the Treasury program. The Federal Reserve, for example, still holds a trillion-dollar portfolio of mortgage-backed securities whose market value is unknown.

The improved picture of the Treasury program is the result of higher-than-expected returns on the loans and the fact that, as the financial sector has recovered from its free fall last year, the government has not had to use much more of its $700 billion in lending authority this year, according to the Treasury officials, who declined to be identified as discussing the report before it was presented to Congress.

Last week, Bank of America became the latest big bank to say that it was raising private capital and would soon repay its $45 billion bailout loan. Once that payment is made, Citigroup will be the last big bank tethered to the state.

The estimated $42 billion in losses is a net figure that accounts for some profits to offset the losses. The Treasury officials said the government had lost about $60 billion, roughly half to Chrysler and General Motors and the other half to the insurance giant American International Group.

But the government is projecting a $19 billion profit and perhaps more on the $245 billion lent to banks, through interest, dividends and the sale of warrants the government received as collateral.

Aside from the rare good news for the federal deficit, the latest bailout accounting could have political and legislative ramifications.

Politically, the Treasury program has been unpopular ever since it was created in October 2008 by former President George W. Bush and a Congress controlled by Democrats. It has grown only more reviled over time as a symbol for many Americans of the government’s perceived favoritism toward Wall Street, which is making money, over Main Street, which continues to struggle and shed jobs.

An anti-Washington anger is disturbing both parties as they approach a midterm election year, and some Republican lawmakers have drawn primary opponents largely because of their votes last year in favor of the bailout program.

It was unclear how that climate might be altered as taxpayers realize they did not actually lose $700 billion to help big banks. At most, the Treasury officials said, the ultimate losses will be one-fifth of that amount and probably less.

Democrats in Congress have already decided to divert about $70 billion from what is left in the bailout fund to the cost of additional road-building and other construction projects, credit to small businesses and further aid to state and local governments.

37 comments:

Casey said...

The Federal Reserve should be audited, no doubt.

RayGun said...

"Of course, the government’s potential losses extend beyond the Treasury program. The Federal Reserve, for example, still holds a trillion-dollar portfolio of mortgage-backed securities whose market value is unknown."
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Funny, I was trying to put this comment in Caseys Pelosi rant.

Case is crying about Pelosis 2900 flowers, but the big bankers, her heros, the masters of the universe, don't even get a mention. Priorities?

Anon2 said...

Casey and the cons want only to hear bad economic news so that they can bash president Obama and the libs.

Libertarians equal cons.

RayGun said...

"Libertarians equal cons. "
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Really funny that there is hardly a con to be found anywhere. All cons claim they are libertarians but they all vote republican. They had the chance to vote for Ron Paul in the last election, didn't they? I say you vote con, you are a con.

Plus libertarians don't like to tell others what to do, and we know cons love telling others what to do. They'll kill each other.

RayGun said...

By appearing on Fox, reporters validate its propaganda values and help to undermine the role of legitimate news organizations,” Weisberg wrote in an Oct. 17 Newsweek column, “Why Fox News Is Un-American.” “Respectable journalists — I'm talking to you, Mara Liasson — should stop appearing on its programs.”

Read Story Here

Casey said...

So now we are having a Casey bashing session? Have at it guys; knock yourselves out!

RayGun said...

Sweet Crazy toes Casey (CC), if only you quit repeating the fallacy's in thy own head that you see as "the truth", ie; trickle down, regulations are evil, on and on, mindlessly, like a religion in its incessant chanting of quarter truths, if only you stopped and opened your eyes to the real truth, to fact based evidence, then you truly could be free. :-)

Casey said...

Okay. I will get all of my news from the Huffington Post.
Funny how you and Anon2 can never address the real issues with any real solutions. You only look backward and re-hash the past until it is mind numbing. (maybe that's the problem...)

RayGun said...

"You only look backward and re-hash the past until it is mind numbing."
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CC, rehash the past? Why? Because of the near complete destruction of the US, of the world economy, you complain that we are rehashing the past?

RayGun said...

"How can it be that this country depends on greed, militarism, and medical extortion? I am not painting a bleak picture in order to frighten or depress anyone. It seems only realistic to examine a belief system with fatal flaws. Perhaps it's time for some false gods to topple."

Cases Favorite Site, HP

Casey said...

Oh RG. Get a grip! Read something from someone that may not be from the left---just once. Your book on derivitives was a start, but didn't go back far enough (1977) to show what set the stage for the "perfect storm". Many things set the whole thing into play. If you knew what all of the factors were, you would not make such misinformed statements.
"greed & militarization"? Are you referring to Capitalism, as your little friend Anon2 does? Militarization as in defending ourselves after 9/11?
And what form of government do you think would be better?

RayGun said...

"Read something from someone that may not be from the left"

Taters, I watched Churchill, "Into the Storm", and he was extreme right wing. I get what he and you wingnuts are saying. But you wingnuts are too extreme, for this day and age. You don't adapt. I also liked RayGun, as he was right for the times, but the times have changed. RayGuns, Ws, Palins ideals are no longer the appropriate views in this day and age. Ws (copied RayGun) ideals nearly ran us into total financial collapse. Are you totally oblivious to any and all evidence? Is it just faith with you all? Churchill called it belief.

RayGun said...

"Lindsay Lohan is busy not acting and has posed for a spread in Muse Magazine."

Link to HP, CCs Favorite Mag

A Has been, and desperate, just like the cons

CASEY said...

Rg, times haven't changed that much. The principles of economics do not change. Bush did not follow Reagun, as Reagun was a fiscal conservative and Bush was not.
What has changed so bloody much? History repeats itself, know why? BECAUSE THINGS DON'T CHANGE THAT MUCH!

RayGun said...

JFC CC, RayGun added 1.5 trillion to the deficit back when that meant something. RayGun did nothing more than borrow like no one had ever done before. Go Obama.

Anon2 said...

Casey said...

"History repeats itself, know why? BECAUSE THINGS DON'T CHANGE THAT MUCH!"

History repeats itself because of people who don't change and don't learn anything from mistakes made in the past.

A typical example is the CONS.

CASEY said...

That is not true, Obama has spent that and in doing so has spent more than any other president in history.
but that shouldn't really bother you, you think that we should spend more.

Your post about Lindsay Lohan just did it for me. How the Fk you can tie that into a con slam, amazes me.

RayGun said...

""History repeats itself, know why? BECAUSE THINGS DON'T CHANGE THAT MUCH!"
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History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme. Twaine

Communism is dead CC. Get over it. RayGun

Casey said...

Anon2
The Queen of snipe and run.

RayGun said...

"Your post about Lindsay Lohan just did it for me. How the Fk you can tie that into a con slam, amazes me. "
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Cons and Lindsey are has bins. Communism is dead. Lynsay is no longer attractive. Both are has bins.

RayGun said...

JFC

has-been

 a person or thing that is no longer effective, successful, popular, etc.

RayGun said...

has-been
 –noun

a person or thing that is no longer effective, successful, popular, etc.

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RG: Am i fking from Mars?

Regarding:

CC: "Your post about Lindsay Lohan just did it for me. How the Fk you can tie that into a con slam, amazes me. "

JC CC, are we both speaketh the Englis?

RayGun said...

Cons utter platitudes, but don't understand words. You're all alike.

Anon2 said...

Casey said...

"Anon2
The Queen of snipe and run."

LOL Lack of a decent answer Caseyboy?

BTW: I've got more important things to do than waiting for answers that may never come and hardly worth looking at. LOL

Casey said...

RG: Am i fking from Mars?--
RG
Yes Rg, I am afraid that you just might be.

Neither one of you know your history, but have the audacity to pretend that you do.
You get all of you info and "truths" from Huffington Post, but wouldn't dream of reading a real book.
You knock Capitalism, but neither one of you can tell me what would be better. You sit on your butts and enjoy all of the advantages of this evil capitalist society, while tearing it down.
You point fingers at the evil cons, but won't look into a single one of backgrouds of the people that your president has appointed.
You refuse to see hypocricy when it's your side that are being hypocrites.
It is hopeless.
I see now why only 21% of the people of his country identify themselves as liberals. People are waking up, and that is why FoxNews ratings keep going up, and Obama's polls keep going down. Yet you still insist that conservative's days are over

PRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.

21%--not so impressive. Obama was elected because people didn't listen to him. Now they are FREAKING out, because they didn't think that this is the change that they were going to get!

Casey said...

LOL Lack of a decent answer Caseyboy?--
Anon2

YOU DIDN'T ASK A QUESTION!!!
And one more time---I am not a boy, OLD HIPPIE WOMAN!

RayGun said...

JC CC, go get another drink.

Interesting link.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/worklife/12/04/o.junot.diaz.becoming.writer/index.html

never mind.

RayGun said...

"And one more time---I am not a boy"
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One more time, we don't believe you CC, prove it. :-)

Casey said...

BTW: I've got more important things to do than waiting for answers that may never come and hardly worth looking at. LOL
Anon2

Yeah, I am sure that you have t-shirts to tye dye, or hair to braid into dreds, maybe pull out the old Peter, Paul & Mary albums for old time sake...

CJP said...

I don't know why Casey is complaining about Obama spending so much money. Spending tons of money is exactly what Obama should have been doing.

Deficit spending, priming the pump, pouring more money back into the system.

The economist, John Maynard Keynes, showed that this is how you end a Depression in the 1930's, and this is how Obama just averted a new Depression in 2009.

Conservatives are not only great at creating Depressions; they are also terrific at preventing the country from coming out of them.

Look at Hoover from 1929 through 1933.

If only McCain and Palin had won in 2008, there would have been no Tea Parties. No one would have been able to afford to buy any tea.

Maybe today we would have had Tea Lines instead of Bread Lines.

CJP

Casey said...

Well, HERE'S another fine example of an Obama appointee:

In March 2000 the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN) organization of Massachusetts held its 10 Year Anniversary GLSEN/Boston conference at Tufts University. This conference was fully supported by the Massachusetts Department of Education, the Safe Schools Program, the Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, and some of the presenters even received federal money. During the 2000 conference, workshop leaders led a “youth only, ages 14-21″ session that offered lessons in “fisting” a dangerous sexual practice. During another workshop an activist asked 14 year-old students, “Spit or swallow?… Is it rude?” The unbelievable audio clip is posted here. Barack Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Kevin Jennings is the founder of GLSEN. He was paid $273,573.96 as its executive director in 2007. Jennings was the keynote speaker at the 2000 GLSEN conference.

I can't WAIT to see how you spin this one!

RayGun said...

"I can't WAIT to see how you spin this one! "
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Before discussing, can we wait until it comes out on the real news, if ever?

Casey said...

Thanks to Soros-linked Media Matters we now know that GLSEN director, and current Obama Safe Schools Czar, Kevin Jennings was confronted on the vile content discussed at the children’s conference.

There you go, RG. Since it is George Soros, maybe you will believe it

RayGun said...

"Since it is George Soros"
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I only know Soros by a vaguely familiar name. Do you have a link?

CJP said...

Reagan's poll numbers in 1982 were much lower than Obama's are now, Casey. But look what happened in 1984.

Republicans in Congress realize that, if Obama can get a meaningful health reform bill passed, he is a shoo-in for re-election in 2012. That's why they are fighting so desperately to kill any such bill.

Casey said...

CJP, I can't believe that I have to point this out again, but here goes.....

We are not comparing anything more than each president's ratings at the SAME TIME OF THE PRESIDENCY. Not 1982 to this time in Obama's presidency; but the same amount of time in office. Not a hard one, suprised that you and Anon2 are having so much trouble with it.

Rassmussen poll: 71% of Americans are angry with the direction that this administration is taking the country.
Google it.

Casey said...

Republicans in Congress realize that, if Obama can get a meaningful health reform bill passed, he is a shoo-in for re-election in 2012. That's why they are fighting so desperately to kill any such bill.
CJP

I can't even comment on this statement. Where would one begin? According to polls, americans don't want this bill passed. Most Americans don't feel that this is the biggest crisis that we have in front of us. Probably explains why so many americans are so angry.