Sunday, March 14, 2010
Wise Words of Wisdom from Derek on the Internet
It's too bad that Christians need to be insulted first, before taking on this vile cretin, Glenn Beck, who sows hatred and division every time he opens his mouth. In fact, the organization he works for, Fox News, is nothing but an organ of hatred and propaganda, directed at those who don't share it's ignorant and paranoid view of the world. Why don't the Christians take on the people who give idiots, like Beck, a platform to spread his filth, in the first place? Maybe it's because they have spent the last few decades getting into bed with the party of hate.
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When you look at some of the contributors to FoxNews, you see that they are not all conservative.
You have Geraldo Rivera, Bob Bickel, Susan Estrich, Juan Williams, and others that could hardly be considered conservative.
I watch regularly and do not hear the hate speech that you mention.
This is a highly rated news station and it sounds like sour grapes to me. Quite frankly, if you don't like Fox, don't watch.
However, NO ONE spews MORE hate, and is a bigger D-bag than Keith Olbermann!
Keith Olbermann is on one side of the see-saw. Keith is trying to single-handedly counter-balance that huge circus of elephants and rhinos piled onto the other side.
Keith is a combination Gladiator and Ninja doing an amazing job of chopping up the bad guys.
Caseyboy said...
"I watch regularly and do not hear the hate speech that you mention."
That doesn't surprise me in the least, you're either a liar or a brainwashed ignorant or are deaf.
Anyone with half a brain hears the hate and ultra right extremist speeches spewn out on Fox.
Only cooks, paranoids, sensationalists, ultra right extremists, ones who want to stir up things, would listen to Fox.
CJP and Raygun, help me out who else would listen to Fox?
Thanks.
People who like to monitor hate speech would also listen to FOX.
Cons are like a crazy group of dogs. Rabid dogs. Dogs like in the book "To Kill a Mockingbird". Cons, please read some more. Not just history, real works of literature. Thanks. You are true Amerikans if you do. Freedom...
Crazy rabid cons, any of ye, have you read "To Kill A Mockingbird"? Of course not.
"Keith is a combination Gladiator and Ninja doing an amazing job of chopping up the bad guys."---CJP
That isn't true. You guys have many more left leaning programs than the 1 Fox Station. You have MSMBC, which has Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, and many, many others that provide the Left viewpoint ONLY.
Olbermann is a huge dramatic D-bag tool that tries to make Shakespere out of everything he says. God, I know TONS of liberals that think he's annoying.
"That doesn't surprise me in the least, you're either a liar or a brainwashed ignorant or are deaf."--Anon2
More lovely talk from the one that "loves her neighbor and Jesus"! Sweetie, your evil side is showing.
"Only **cooks, paranoids, sensationalists, ultra right extremists, ones who want to stir up things, would listen to Fox.---Anon2
Well, I LIKE to cook, so maybe that's why I like to listen.
AT LEAST I LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES.
"Crazy rabid cons, any of ye, have you read "To Kill A Mockingbird"? Of course not."---RG
"To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee. What? Did you JUST read it, RG?
Back to name calling. From the side that loves people so much.
""To Kill a Mockingbird" by Harper Lee. What? Did you JUST read it, RG?"
Read it many times. Own it in my library, hardcover. I know I am an elitist :-)... In a cons world I should apologize..
Hey hey mama said the way you move,
Gon' make you sweat, gon' make you groove.
Ah-ah child way you shake that thing,
Gon' make you burn, gon' make you sting.
Hey hey baby when you walk that way,
Watch your heartache drip, can't keep away. Hey hey mama said the way you move,
Gon' make you sweat, gon' make you groove.
Ah-ah child way you shake that thing,
Gon' make you burn, gon' make you sting.
Hey hey baby when you walk that way,
Watch your heartache drip, can't keep away.
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/l/led+zeppelin/black+dog_20081883.html
Cons, no get lyrics. Cons dont get words. Cons dont git the guitar....
Cons dont get vitus. Cons get so little.
I just dont know why the BB hates the Edge and Bono so much. I don't think he understands them...
"John Galt was Rand's archetypal "philosopher hero" and Atlas Shrugged devotes pages and pages to Galt's (and Rand's) philosophy of "rational self-interest."
Rand, an atheist, conceived of "rational self-interest" as the natural state of man, ordering his relationships and actions more so than religion. (It may even have been that Rand constructed her argument to supplant religion, as the tenet of rational self-interest closely parallels and is consistent with Jesus' "Golden Rule.")"
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God Damn, the book Atlas Shrugged sucked. I cant believe I ever finished it. 1000 pages of repetition.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-herrington/who-is-john-galt-no-reall_b_498753.html
Crazy cons, are you all moving down to Texass if the health care bill passes?
What I would like to know is why is the government take over of student loans in the healthcare bill? Do you know why? Do you like that too?
BTW---no government option in this bill so why do you like it so much?
"BTW---no government option in this bill so why do you like it so much?"
Everyone says its a good start. Public option can come later.
How about the student loans? With such a high rate of default, why would the government want to take this over? What is the advantage of not allowing private loans as well?
"What is the advantage of not allowing private loans as well? "
Maybe Obama realizes this is another area where a for profit industry is not warranted. They say only 30 percent graduate from college these days, something that must change.
"Only cooks, paranoids, sensationalists, ultra right extremists, ones who want to stir up things, would listen to Fox."
Ironically, communists also.
CJP-
Would you like to talk about things like:
-Our image with Israel!
-Pelosi trying to pass a health care bill the people dont want!
-Corrupt government deals to buy votes for the health care bill!
-More and more waste being found in the so called stimulus!
-New taxes being created everywhere by liberals!
""What is the advantage of not allowing private loans as well? "
Maybe Obama realizes this is another area where a for profit industry is not warranted. They say only 30 percent graduate from college these days, something that must change."
-Raygun
Obama would love to get rid of every for profit in the country and give the power to the government, not the people!
Wow, A2 is on a huge tear. Go A2.
Brandon is ranting again I see.
"What is the advantage of not allowing private loans as well?"
What advantage does private money lending entail, to a student, please pray tell.
Its obvious that private insurance for medical care is a total and complete failure. Who, but an idiot, can say that insurance companies have provided anything in cost savings to US medicine?
"What is the advantage of not allowing private loans as well?"
You retarded cons, are you now claiming that the US government is going to disallow all loans to students other than from our government?
And the death panels, and the health care vote that is going to pass without even voting for it. JHC, you cons are something else.
Wrong about everything but still self assured of your own self righteousness. Silly cons.
"Paul has lately said he would not leave abortion to the states, he doesn't believe in legalizing drugs like marijuana and cocaine, he'd support federal drug laws; he'd vote to support Kentucky's coal interests; and he'd be tough on national security."
Another con in teabagger clothing, telling everyone what to do.
Cons aka teabaggers, why can't you just let people be free? If they want to do drugs let them do drugs. If they want to take abortions out of back alleys, whey not let them? Why do we need such a huge military, teabags? We all know why. Teabaggers are the true party of hypocrites. Cons on steroids.
"You retarded cons, are you now claiming that the US government is going to disallow all loans to students other than from our government?"---RG
It is in the Healthcare Bill. You might know that if you checked. All student loans would be government granted.
"In another twist in the health-care-reform saga, the Democrats announced Thursday a plan to include the contested Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act (SAFRA) as a part of the final reconciliation bill sent to the Senate."---Newsweek
Basically it is a government take over of all student loans.
"The Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act would cut out the middle man from federal student loan programs and give students the chance to borrow directly from the federal government instead of from banks. The bill, which passed the House in September, would also greatly expand the Pell grant program for low-income students."---ABC News "The Note"
"It is in the Healthcare Bill. You might know that if you checked. All student loans would be government granted. "
Didn't even bother checking. Sounds just like the "Death Panels", "Bill will pass without a vote", etc. It's all BS, just as I am 99 percent sure "All student loans would be government granted.".
Just cons using terror tactics to terrify (communism/fascism/totalatrian. The one that scares the shit out of me is a Theocracy, cons would love that one.)
How can you say that? It is in the Bill. Not scare tactics. Just wondering WHY that would be in a Healthcare Bill. What's wrong with having both government AND private loans available?
"How can you say that? It is in the Bill. "
Comon Case, common sense. Your con leaders lead with fear mongering. I find it really hard to believe that the Feds are going to outlaw private loans to students. JHC.
Again, your cons leaders like to take snippets of text and play on your fears, when the snippet of text is not standing alone to being with. Context. Cons live in a simple world, and context is important in the real world.
Just because you "find it hard to believe" doesn't mean that it isn't so. I just gave you the info. Google it yourself.
Do you think that this is all made up? Why would I do that? I am not a stupid woman, and I have checked this out prior to mentioning it. You are the one that hasn't. You have the tools. Use them. Find out for yourself. Don't just reject it out of hand, because you don't want to believe that it is true.
I am not giving it any "deeper meaning" I just wonder what the point to that would be...
"I am not giving it any "deeper meaning" I just wonder what the point to that would be... "
There is no deeper meaning as there is no shallow meaning as its not true. I am not even bothering checking out the following BS fact; All student loans will only available from the government and all private loans to students will be illegal.
Is that what you are saying?
So you are saying a parent can not loan money to his own child, if the bill passes? Comon... This is the fear mongering we frequently talk about.
"So you are saying a parent can not loan money to his own child, if the bill passes? Comon... This is the fear mongering we frequently talk about."---RG
What the F are you smoking? No one said that a parent couldn't loan money to their own child to go to school! What is in the Bill is that there would no longer be any private student loans---as in Bank loans. Private companies underwriting student loans.
You are just being obstinate. You know what I meant. It was in the 2 excerpts that I provided. For some reason you do not want to check it out for yourself? I am not telling you to take my word for it, and ABC news is not Fox, so what is the problem? And why would you call it a "scare tactic"? Would it bother you? I didn't say that it was "scary", I was just wondering what the point to it would be...
"I was just wondering what the point to it would be..."
First step of a communist fascist takeover.
The Gd article didn't mention why it was in there? This smells like more con horse manure.
"The Gd article didn't mention why it was in there? "---RG
No. It didn't. That's why I was wondering, however there are more articles on this. Google: Student loans and Healthcare Bill.
What are you afraid of? Why don't you just look it up yourself? It is silly to go back and forth on this when the info is out there. You are acting like this is a right wing conspiracy! ABC news and others are not extensions of the conservative movement.
Your bustin my balls.
Sorry, watching the Sopranos.
Ill look it up in a bit, but guessing the right wing fear mongers are hinting one line of text in a 50,000 page doc, (or whatever the health care bill is), proves communism is on its way. I guarantee there are fear mongers out there saying as such.
"Google: Student loans and Healthcare Bill. "
JHC, Case, "There you go again", Faux News is at the top to the horse crap pile of bogus news. Give me some links. I am not wasting my time even glancing at Faux News drivel. An no where in my brief review of the news articles did I see that the government was taking over student loans. It's more Bs Case, as 80 percent of cons rhetoric is.
Just keep repeating it and it will come true. Theres no place like home, theres no place like home. JHC, cons are something else.
Back to more believable fiction, "The Sopranos"
RG, I gave you 2 non Fox News quotes that could be looked up. I found them by Googling/searching "student loans and healthcare bill" It was easy and there were many to choose from. I intentionally did not give you any FoxNews stuff. Try this:
The New York Times reports that Democrats have tentatively agreed to bundle the student loan bill (which would have the government directly lend to students and eliminate the role of private companies in federally-backed loans) into the health care reconciliation bill. Doing so could accomplish several things: 1) pass a student loan bill that can't garner 60 votes in the Senate 2) allow Democrats to get around the requirement that the reconciliation bill would have to reduce deficits by $1 billion and 3) Potentially secure the needed votes to pass the Senate bill through the House.
NY Times:
"House Democrats plan to tack a student loan package onto the health care bill in order to get the controversial overhaul through the chamber.
“It is a perfect climate for us to pass a wonderful bill to expand opportunity to access health care and education in our country,” said House speaker Nancy Pelosi, standing on the sun-soaked steps of the Capitol before a group of some 200 students representing liberal organizations like Campus Progress and Young Invincibles."
I am not making this up, as it is obviously in the Bill. However if you still want to be ignorant of the facts, because it makes you uncomfortable...(there is not one Fox News article that came up in the search. You didn't even bother to look.)
Case, please give me a link so I can see the context.
I am not going to provide you with any links because that gives you the excuse to say that they are "lying" or any number of other excuses that you might want to come up with. If you do the search yourself you will find numerous links that you can choose from.
For some reason that you have not stated, you do not want to believe that this is in the healthcare bill, even though I have given you many excerpts and sources that state that this is the case. None of them are Fox News. Seems that you will go to any length to avoid finding out about this. Guess it would really bother you to find out that this is true. Why is that?
Very interesting article from the bastion of liberal media
Maybe we should reduce benefits? I think probably so. Look at the chart, and see how many find jobs, just as unemployment runs out.
"I have given you many excerpts and sources that state that this is the case."
Why not provide links?
When what you are saying hits the real news, NY Times, CNN, Time, etc, then I will read about it. Or give me links. I did a quick search and it brought up links just as I suspected. Faux News, blogs, etc.
I went through Bing. But Google works as well. Real news sources were NY Times (as sited) Newsweek and ABC News.
They are there and I have already stated why I won't provide the links. You will use any links that I provide as an excuse to shoot it down.
I have a hard time believing that if you do the same search as I did, you wouldn't find anything except for FoxNews. The ones that I sited are there.
I will give you 1, but there are many on the search, to include Huffington. You obviously didn't look.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/03/pelosi-house-will-attach-student-loan-reform-to-health-care-bill.html
"Furthermore, Politico reports that Democrats may have to include student loan reform in the reconciliation bill to meet the cost-saving requirements of reconciliation."
Case, looks like they are doing it for technical reasons, so they can use reconciliation for the health care. Those crafty dems.
Regarding the government wanting to cut out the middle money grubbing bankers, I say hooray. Loans will still be available through the money grubbing banks, but why would a student want to pay more for a loan as the government loan will be nearly interest free? You tell me, maybe I am off and not paying much attention, as I am not trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
The government is not taking over the world, and we are not moving to communism (unless the cons drive us there).
It clearly states that the middle man would be cut out. Meaning that there would no longer be any loans available via private companies.
I think giving a CHOICE is the way to go. Some people need additional loans so that living expences can be covered while in school fulltime. It should be up to the student as to whether they pay interest on the loan or not. Loans would no longer be available through banks or institutions that provide the loans. This is clearly stated in all of the articles.
Yes, I think that the government is getting too involved in too many of our institutions. The student loan process has been run quite well so far, and I see no need for this.
Why do you bring communism into everything? You are the only one that does that and it seems so paranoid to me.
"The student loan process has been run quite well so far, and I see no need for this."
Its a waste of precious green to have a middle man (banks) doing what?
A student will still be able to get a private loan. Its another con fear mongering tactic. Terrorizing the already fearful.
Same waste of precious green to have health insurance companies doing what?
Case, its your leaders that keep bringing up communism, Beck Boy, etc. If they are not saying it directly they sure seem to be alluding to it.
What part of cutting out the middle man do you not understand? Where is it that you saw that private student loans would still be available? I have not seen that in any of the articles that I have read. Show me where you see that the private loans would still be available..
"Where is it that you saw that private student loans would still be available?"
It's just common sense. Where does the government now make a type of loan available only through the government? You're saying they will make student loans illegal through private banks? Sounds like more con fear mongering.
I have seen articles recently that stated cons are wired differently. So as to be more paranoid. And I am really starting to believe it. And that is coming from a person that has friends that think he is paranoid. Thing is, my paranoia, I view as an insurance policy (all my guns, gold, etc) I don't really truly believe I will need them, but just in case...
You've got me beat in the paranoia dept. I don't feel the need to have guns or weapons of any kind.
I don't think that you are safe to assume that "cutting out the middleman" means that private loans would still be available. If things would stay as they are, then why are they putting it in the healthcare bill so as to make sure it passes? THAT part doesn't make sense.
"I don't feel the need to have guns or weapons of any kind."
Ironic though, I have already used a legal concealed weapon to defend myself from 2 pitbulls on a bike ride. Not sure what would of happened if I hadn't had the handgun when they went after me. The cops told me good job (in not so many words). They helped me with the statement (in my opinion) and never heard another peep out of anyone.
"are they putting it in the healthcare bill so as to make sure it passes? "
Again, I think they are putting the health care bill in with the loan bill (not the loan bill in with the health care bill), so the health care can legally be passed through reconciliation.
And again, no one but paranoid cons is talking about this.
Case, you on unemployment? No shame in that. I personally have used it 3-4 times. Are you trying to retrain?
No. I am self employed now. Doing well for a new business.
The town that I live in has an ordinance against owning pitbulls.
Good thing that you were able to defend yourself. What a horrible situation that might have been!
Saw too much of that in Arizona. The dogs were always just fine, until they would suddenly kill grandma in the middle of the night, right?
"No. I am self employed now. Doing well for a new business."
Good deal. Don't forget to pay your taxes :-).
"The town that I live in has an ordinance against owning pitbulls."
Wish they had one here in WA. I was ready to draw on another pit bull from a construction worker, as I was out walking my little dog. Irritated the piss out out me as the owner had a little smirk on his face as the dog was really watching us, unleashed.
Amazing what a good hit on those dogs will do. When I shot it, his chasing me was over, instantly. Big mess. The cops said I should sue them for the price of the bullet.
yeah, they say that pitbulls are great dogs, and it is how you raise them, but that isn't true. It can be in the bloodline, and you never know when the craziness will crop up. No reason to have something as dangerous as a pitbull. They're stubborn, and hard to handle, too.
I don't have a gun, but I am glad that you are allowed to have one, if you feel that you need one.
"They're stubborn, and hard to handle, too."
Yes, a bundle of raging hormones.
"I don't have a gun, but I am glad that you are allowed to have one, if you feel that you need one."
I have many, including the auto shotgun. And when the zombies come, who will you be running too?
ZombieLand sounds like a dumb movie, but I thought it was good.
I LOVE zombies! They are my favorite monsters! Guess I should have a gun in case of zombies...Forgot about that threat.
I LOVE zombies! They are my very favorite monsters! Guess I should think about a gun. You never know when one of those suckers might show up and wreck your day. :}
"You never know when one of those suckers might show up and wreck your day. :} "
That or a commie :-)
I say zombie as an euphemism for the unknown. ie, you never know what may happen.
No RG. A zombie is a zombie. The undead. Flesh eaters. Ever notice how you can't outrun one? I mean, they move so slowly, yet for some reason you can't get away from them in the movies. That's what is so great about zombies.
Best zombie movie ever: Night of the Living Dead. Cheesy by today's standards, but great for the times, and still scary in a B movie kind of way.
(weirdest thing...my post did not show up on my screen---surprised you saw it.)
"Ever notice how you can't outrun one?"
Yes you can, in Zombieland you can. Woody Harrelson, et al, they all could run away from them, and they could kill them, and the preferred weapon was a shotgun. Jeeeesh.
The machine gun worked well in the movie also, but in real life they are mostly illegal.
My posts aren't showing up. I don't see them. I even logged off and back on again. That is so weird and has never happened to me before!
Are you seeing them? I just posted this:
No RG. A zombie is a zombie. The undead. Flesh eaters. Ever notice how you can't outrun one? I mean, they move so slowly, yet for some reason you can't get away from them in the movies. That's what is so great about zombies.
Best zombie movie ever: Night of the Living Dead. Cheesy by today's standards, but great for the times, and still scary in a B movie kind of way.
(weirdest thing...my post did not show up on my screen---surprised you saw it.)
Did you see that one?
Okay. You saw my last post. But it isn't there on my screen. Do you think it's CJP's way of getting rid of me? THAT sounded paranoid, huh?
Yes I see your posts, but if you cant see yours then maybe you cant see mine. Are you drinking?
"Do you think it's CJP's way of getting rid of me?"
Nah, I have a site set up, and I dont see how you can do that with google blogger, which is what he is using. I could be wrong. But I do remember him saying he might cut you off, if naked pics did not show up shortly.
Okay. I am now seeing my posts. Whew! That was weird!
Naked pics? don't have any laying around. Must have given them all out :}
No I am not drinking tonight, but I should be! Friday night for sure. Gotta watch that. Have to make a living.
"Have to make a living. "
What are you up to? What is your new business? Medical maryjane? Nothing wrong with that.
I am back to not seeing my posts. I even went upstairs and checked on my laptop and they aren't showing up there, either. It is too annoying. I am going to bed.
Talk to you tomorrow.
It's funny that you should say that Glenn Beck represents a party of hate and ignroance that spreads propoganda, when your own post is completely one-sided. While Glenn Beck does represent a very conservative viewpoint and is a bit of a jerk, every network has their own political leanings and if you can't accept that, then watch something else, you hippy liberal.
I swear---that last post wasn't me!
"I swear---that last post wasn't me!"
Sure it wasn't you.
I would rather be a hippy, than a hillbilly. Hippys are cool and like free love. Hillbilly's are dumb and like their sisters.
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