Senator Sanders says:
I'm angry. I'm frustrated. And I want action. I've had my differences with both sides of the aisle, but I have never seen tactics as dangerous as the ones Republicans are using.
Republicans have said "No" to the very changes Americans elected President Obama to make. No to health care reform. Jobs. Clean energy. Regulations so big banks can't wreck our economy and get rich in the process.
They're saying "No" for one explicit reason - to make President Obama fail.
It's a plain and simple political strategy. Republicans think that if they can make Obama fail, they will energize their base, whip up the Tea Partiers like Rand Paul in Kentucky, prey on the fear and frustration of the American people - and pick up seats in November. They even have a name for it, the "Republican Comeback."
That strategy, my friends, must be stopped. We cannot go back to the Bush-Cheney policies, which caused many of the crises we currently face.
Republicans are furiously raising money, and they'll have help. The largest U.S. business lobby for insurance companies and big corporations is planning to spend $50 million to elect "big business" candidates. And the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision allows corporations to give as much money as they want in support of candidates. Candidates who stand up to corporate influence risk their voices being drowned out by the big dollars of special interests.
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To make him fail? I don't think you have a clue about what a real conservative is. Why on earth would we want are own president to fail? I understand that there are crazy people out there who do want Mr. Obama to fail. But really. I am not a democrat. I am so far right that I hate everything about what a democrat believes. However, I don't want Obama to fail. The liberals just use that against us because he IS failing. When this guy says "Conservatives" he is referring to only a certain number of them. This dude really needs to think before he talks.
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Rush Limbaugh has announced repeatedly: "I want Obama to Fail." Taking their cue from Limbaugh, the Senate Republicans have voted unanimously in lock-step "No" on the measures Obama has taken to save our country from economic disaster and move our economy forward -- "No" on the initial stimulus packages, "No" on increasing the stimulus packages to a higher level to create millions of additional jobs, "No" on health care reform, "No" on increased regulation of the financial industry, "No" on holding BP accountable for the untold damage it has inflicted on thousands of fishermen and others along the Gulf Coast, "No" on any program that would reduce corporate profits or cause corporations to act more responsibly towards their employees and their communities. That is why the GOP is now known as "The Party of No" -- or as the "GOBP". Conservatives not only Want America to fail -- they are doing everything in their power to cause that failure.
NO ONE wants the Pres to fail. If he fails, we all fail. With a Dem majority in the House and Senate, it is difficult to believe that this is all due to Republicans' resistance. Do you think that it MIGHT be because even some Dems don't want the kind of legislation that they are trying to push?
No, we did not want the kind of Health reform that they had in mind, Jobs? Show me some and we can discuss that..."Clean energy"? Cap&Trade is not the answer. Regulations for the financial institutions are fine, but maybe we don't want the drastic, misdirected type that this admin wants. Stimulus pkg? The first one was a mass grab for pork spending and favors with little left for any real lasting jobs. No more of that.
Again, over simplified. NO ONE wants him to fail, but no one wants this crap that he is trying to push either!
By the way...The exact quote that Limbaugh used (and I don't even like him, but let's be HONEST here) was this:
"So I shamelessly say, no, I want him to fail, ***if his agenda is a far- left collectivism, some people say socialism, as a conservative heartfelt, deeply, why would I want socialism to succeed?"
Not the same as, "I want him to fail" is it?
Again, you have the left taking words, twisting them, to discredit the person. Gotta listen carefully here. It is a tactic being used and only the gullible or those with an agenda let it slip by.
"No" on the measures Obama has taken to save our country from economic disaster ...
"No" on the initial stimulus packages,
"No" on increasing the stimulus packages to a higher level to create millions of additional jobs,
"No" on health care reform,
"No" on increased regulation of the financial industry,
"No" on holding BP accountable for the untold damage it has inflicted on thousands of fishermen and others along the Gulf Coast,
(The Conservatives are supporting the idea of holding BP accountable)
"No" on any program that would reduce corporate profits or cause corporations to act more responsibly towards their employees and their communities"
-CJP
Did you ever stop and think that maybe the above is BAD for our country???
How are the republicans "making Obama fail"? The democrats had complete control so they could pass the stimulus and health insurance reform. So if Obama fails it is the democrats fault, not the republicans! When will you guys stop trying to blame the republicans and accept your own failures?
"When will you guys stop trying to blame the republicans and accept your own failures?"
Let's eliminate the filibuster, so when people vote for a change in direction, as happened with the democrats winning control the house, the senate, and the executive branch, we actually see a change.
Do you cons realize, if we paid the same for health care as many other nations, we would have a budget surplus? So if the dems didn't have to worry about a filibuster, they would of passed a comprehensive health care package, and we would be out of debt, or at least on our way.
I think the cons path to destruction is ignorance, not actual malice, for the most part. But whether ignorance or malice, the result is often the same.
"if we paid the same for health care as many other nations, we would have a budget surplus?"---RG
Wow. That is really some fuzzy math...If that were the case, why don't all other nations have budget surpluses? Last I checked, European nations are having some serious debt problems and economic turmoil. I just don't see where this would cause a surplus. Please explain it to me.
"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system. Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)"---NPR
I don't know RG. I never get sick and don't really want to pay 21% of my income for National Healthcare. That's alot of money.
It goes on to say:
"Last year, the national health system ran nearly $9 billion in debt. Although it is a smaller deficit than in previous years, it forced the government of President Nicolas Sarkozy to start charging patients more for some drugs, ambulance costs and other services. Debates over cost-cutting have become an expected part of the national dialogue on health care."
England's system is broke. And you know what? So is every single government run system in our country. Why you think that all of a sudden this government could own or run a profitable business is beyond me!
"I don't know RG. I never get sick and don't really want to pay 21% of my income for National Healthcare. "
We pay nearly double per person for health care. Sometimes triple as compared to other countries.
"Why you think that all of a sudden this government could own or run a profitable business is beyond me!"
Every government run health care system in the world is doing better than ours when factoring cost and quality. Our country only excels in getting you in fast and out fast, because that's where the money is made.
Our insurance run health care sucks. Plus if I get really sick, I know the greedy bastard insurance companies will try everything to get out of paying. Medical bills are the leading cause of bankruptcy, and many of those people had health insurance.
"Do you cons realize, if we paid the same for health care as many other nations, we would have a budget surplus? So if the dems didn't have to worry about a filibuster, they would of passed a comprehensive health care package, and we would be out of debt, or at least on our way."
-Raygun
What kind of drugs are you on??? What in our countries history would lead you to believe our government could run health care without going into the red? It would be an expansion of medicare and medicaide and thus increasing our deficits and raising taxes to get no where.
if we paid the same for health care as many other nations
Are you puffing whacky weed (although I say leave people alone and let them smoke it if they want)?
Cost per capita health care is 2-3 times as high in the US as in other countries. So the other countries government out perform our incompetent insurance companies in managing health care costs.
"We pay nearly double per person for health care"---RG
RG, it isn't "free" healthcare! It is paid with taxes---which are quite high as it is. AND I disagree with you on the leading cause of BK in this country. As an underwriter, I see PLENTY of BK filings and I rarely see a single one that was caused by medical bills! Oh yeah, I see the letters of explanation for the BK and yes, they most often blame it on medical bills, but the supporting documentation just isn't there to back it up. (Very few have huge medical bills that have been discharged, or medical collections on the credit report)It is a popular excuse to use, but what I see is mismanagement of finances and pages and pages of credit card debt! I am sure that there are some, but I doubt that it is the leading cause as we are being told. Seriously. I am pretty honest, and that is what I see.
But healthcare was passed, so why re-hash this?
I think that the initial issue was that you and CJP are trying to say that conservatives are not in favor of reform. What Brandon and I are saying is that they are, but not the way that this administration wants to do it. Quite simply put, just because conservatives (and lots of democrats, obviously)object to the Bills as presented, it doesn't mean that they are against reform.
"...but what I see is mismanagement of finances and pages and pages of credit card debt"
-Casey
Funny how this seems to be the real #1 reason for BK.
I think that I see a fair sample of BK papers that extend across the board of the population. For some reason, liberals have latched onto the idea that medical is the reason for most of the BK's and I just am not seeing it. Could it be that you have people with pages and pages of credit card debt, and then when there is a medical problem, they are so strapped that they cannot pay the medical bills?
Then there are the people that just plain don't pay the medical bills (even small ones) that pay EVERYTHING else on time, but have medical collections---small ones---because Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac don't make you pay off medical collections in order to qualify for a loan. AND IN THE END WE ALL PAY FOR THAT.
The party of NO? I mean cut the you-know-what? The Dems had a super majority for the year, they could do, and did whatever they wanted to do.. and they still couldn't get anything done. The people believed Obama was going to be different than the same old Washington insiders. His administration has proven to be so far worse than any other as far as scandals, back room deals, lack of transparency, etc. We haven't gone through a full month without some political scandal out of Chicago and Washington. It goes from one to the next. People didn't vote for this.
The reason they couldn't get anything done is because the PEOPLE overwhelmingly opposed what they were doing. Healthcare Reform? If that wasn't one of the most scandalous acts of "government for the people and by the people" I've ever seen. It has nothing to do with what the people wanted.
When Pelosi says "we'll have to read it before we see what's in it", how can any sane person not say NO!!! This is WRONG!!
Look at what's happening to Europe! Heck yeah I want him to fail in turning the U.S. into that mess. NO! NO! NO!
I am with you, Rick! Now look at the voting scandal with the Black Panthers in Philly...No charges? Hell, it's on video tape for all to see. There are witnesses. Uniformed, black gloved men with billy clubs standing at the entrance to a polling place!
History will show Obama to be one of the most corrupt, inept, Presidents in all of history. I wish it weren't so. It was great to see a black man get elected President, ---but this was clearly the WRONG guy for the job.
I long for the days of Bill Clinton! (and I am not even a liberal)
And Sanders said no to the Audit the Fed Bill. The Federal Reserve has destroyed our economy, ruined the peoples purchasing power, and continues to impose the inflation tax on those who can least afford it- the poor. And this is a man of the people? Time to stop this partisan travesty and start standing up for the people.
Cons have ruined this country...
No, RG. look around. Progressives are ruining this country. Loans that should not have been made in the interest of "helping the poorest" See FNMA--and believe it or not----FNMA is begining to offer these programs again! Believe me. I see the guidelines!!!!
Progressives are telling us that we can't eat salt in NYC, McDonalds can't give toys in Happy Meals, explicit instruction in Sex ED complete with all of the positions---in the 5th grade! The UN says we should ban air conditioning, censor the internet, ban guns, allow anyone in the world to come across the boarder and give them drivers licenses, the list of insanity just goes on and on.
And let's not forget. The Progressives built the Japanese internment camps, brought us Prohibition, and got us into to WW1
Yeah, you progressives have a real handle on things.
RG: the meltdown with the housing industry was not brought about entirely by the "big bad bankers". We ALL had a hand in it. But it was Barney Frank and the rest that put pressure on the banks to make these programs available in the first place. Our individual GREED fueled the fire, (treating our homes as cash cows, lying about how much we made per year)
And now, Obama and the rest, in their ultimate wisdom, are excluding FNMA once again from the regulations that all others will have to live by. And WHO owns FNMA?? We do. We tax payers are on the hook for over 90% of all mortgages in this country.
"Loans that should not have been made in the interest of "helping the poorest"
Amazing and hard to believe the poorest nearly brought down the financial system.
"Loans that should not have been made in the interest of "helping the poorest"
I forgot to include:
Amazing and hard to believe the poorest nearly brought down the entire worlds financial system.
Amazing and hard to believe the poorest nearly brought down the financial system.
What a rediculous statement! No...the loans were BAD. Why were they bad? Because of all of the reasons mentioned, greed, stupid programs, the government pressure to make the bad loans and stupid programs. The housing bubble. You aren't a stupid person, RG. You already know all of this.
So RG...You think Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were completely innocent in this whole mess? They own over 90% of all of the mortgages in this country. How did that happen, if they didn't get their hands the dirtiest? Dodd and Frank at the helm the whole time telling us that everything was just peachey at FNMA. Sure glad those 2 drafted the new financial reform bill. I feel so much better knowing that!
You aren't stupid, but are you INSANE??? How does any of this make any sense to you?
"Dodd and Frank at the helm the whole time telling us that everything was just peachey at FNMA."
Yes sweet lips, it all makes sense to me.
Frank (gay guy) was the most powerful person in the world, and he destroyed it because Jesus (aka God) doesn't like him?
"Frank (gay guy) was the most powerful person in the world, and he destroyed it because Jesus (aka God) doesn't like him?"---RG
RG, you need to put the crack pipe down! :} No one cares that this guy is gay. What they care about is that he is an HUGH tool!
FNMA was running into the GROUND and all the while, this "master of oversight" was assuring us that all was solid and great at FNMA.
Check out his statements on the web regarding this. This was right before the collapse of the industry. Same for Dodd. He said nothing as Countrywide was killing us and he was getting special deals on his mortgage! Both were in charge of oversight---I guess they thought that meant "overlooking"
hey Sanders...my family left Vermont because people like you were screwing it up...I really hope you do read this...my parents became sick of voting conservative and then not winning...so we moved to Tennessee...America did not elect Obama...a portion of Americans outvoted the portion that voted for someone else...that is why Republicans vote against those socialistic measures which you are so ardently for...because they don't believe in them just like many people don't believe in Obama...we don't want America to fail, that's why we voted against Obama. Wake up, you so-called independent...our Founding Fathers didn't create a socialist country, like you blatantly call yourself...get lost and shut up
"Both were in charge of oversight---I guess they thought that meant "overlooking"
No one understood what those crafty devils on wall street were doing. But Moodys said it was all AAA, so it must be ok.
The bad mortgages were just a flame, and wall street poured hundreds of gallons of gasoline on it.
No. When Barney gets up there and says that FNMA is sound, and a "good investment" (right before this thing crashed and burned)then there's a PROBLEM.
Both sides screwed up. My problem with it is now Obama has some of the biggest players in this mess, in his administration. I don't see how a logical person can excuse that!
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