No article here, so I just will post this shameful incident. If these aren't racists, KKK and CONS... well then I'm done. Before judging others such as Palestinians look in your own backyard first. :(
Arizona Elementary School Will Whiten The Faces Of Its Own Students On A Mural Because Some Racists Yelled At It
"Via Ken Layne at Wonkette, this is just the worst story in the world:
An Arizona elementary school mural featuring the faces of kids who attend the school has been the subject of constant daytime drive-by racist screaming, from adults, as well as a radio talk-show campaign (by an actual city councilman, who has an AM talk-radio show) to remove the black student's face, and now the school principal has ordered the faces of the Latino and Black students to be changed to Caucasian skin.
F'ing hell. Read the rest of the details here. And here's Richard Lawson's reaction, at Gawker.
What can I say about this? We are talking about a bunch of mentally deranged adults, who have terrorized an elementary school, for daring to paint a mural featuring the faces of black and Latino children -- actual black and Latino children who live in Arizona. And we're also talking about a group of adults who have decided to send a stirring message to their students and the world: when a bunch of mentally deranged adults -- and we are not talking about people who are particularly threatening, this is a bunch of utterly gutless mopes, yelling racial slurs from their cars, egged on by some pinhead city councilman cowering behind a radio microphone -- threaten a bunch of children, the best thing to do is to accede to their psychotic, racist "demands."
Seriously, educators of Prescott, Arizona, when some creep demands you whiten the faces of your own students on a mural, the correct response is to say, "No, we will not be doing anything of the sort."
This story really should be blasted, far and wide. You cable news producers need to get this story in the mix with a quickness. And let me be clear to you all: there are no "two sides to this story." This is not something you need to have a panel discussion about. CNN, I don't want to see you plumbing the depths of your counterintuition on your website, or lending credence to the notion that the gutless mopes in their cars, shrieking racial slurs at the images of children have an interesting point of view that we should "hear out" because of the need to be "balanced." This is your moment to decry, condemn, and brutalize these evil people.
Blast them to hell, or go jump in the Gulf of Mexico."
There will always be ignorant white trash---uneducated and unsophisticated people that need someone to look down on. That is an unfortunate state of the human condition. But---before you blast the whole of the state, ***Wall said thousands of town residents volunteered or donated to the project.” Anon2, You will always find racism. It exists in every country and every society. You want to see racism? Go to Asia. And yes, you have it in Canada. I don't defend it, I too, am offended by it. However your first paragraph says it all, "Before judging others such as Palestinians look in your own backyard first." What does one have to do with the other? Answer: not a thing! But leave it to you to try to make that giant leap.
"Guess that's why so many blacks escaped to Canada eh?"---Anon2
I don't know if you are trying to be funny, or what---but you make me laugh! Your logic is that Slaves escaped to Canada because there is no racism there? Then I guess that using that logic, they also went to the northern US states because there is no racism here, either... Yes, there is racism in Canada, as there is crime, drug problems, dirty politicians, and all of the other social ills found in all other countries. If not, then you should not be wasting your time on this blog. You should be basking in the pure utopia that is Canada. You could be out chasing unicorns, finding pots of gold at the end of rainbows, and picking up cherries off of the streets that are paved with pure gold! You have racism, Anon2. Just as you had slavery, problems with the French Canadian provences, problems with your native peoples, and all of the ugly stuff that goes along with all growing and developing nations throughout history. Raciam is an ugly side of the human condition. Racism and Prejudice are found in all walks of life and in every society. That doesn't make it right, and perfection is something to strive for, but it will never be wiped out entirely.
"What do chocolate, cookies, A4 paper, potato chips, cumin, toys, jelly, nuts, dried fruit, nutmeg, and goats have in common?
It's a tricky one. If you're a moderate, they have absolutely nothing in common. But if you are a hard-line Israeli politician, they are all potentially dangerous goods that could threaten Israel's security. Well, it seems that that side of the political spectrum has won the argument, as all the above are items that the Israeli government has prohibited from entering Gaza."
""Your logic is that Slaves escaped to Canada because there is no racism there?"
No KKK here in Canada schweetheart, never was." -Anon2
How can you liberals be so ignorant? I am not going to pretend that the conservative party is perfect nor is the United States but I prefer both over any other options. I also condem the actions of both when I disagree with them but you liberals simply turn your heads and pretend your party is perfect and ALL of our countries problems can be blamed on conservatives. GET A CLUE!!!
Good website! Anon2 is delusional. Now we won't hear from her for a while because she can't stand to be proven wrong. She never bothers to research before she makes these statements that have no basis in truth or reality. As I said before, Anon2---racism is an unfortunate and dark side of the human condition. IT IS FOUND IN EVERY SOCIETY AND NATION ON THIS EARTH. As much as you hate the US (and I believe that you do)we don't have a lock on all things bad in this world. Canada too, has it's skeletons, dark times, and ugliness. Guess you need to drop the smug and condesending act....sweetheart!
There are 2 sides to this story. The other side says things like, "go back to Auschwitz". And I suppose gas masks, knives, and guns are needed for this "human aide" mission? "the 1,000 days of illegal blockade" Your author shows her bias and propaganda mission here when she calls this an "illegal blockade". The blockade is perfectly legal and it is also on the Egypt side of Gaza. the answer is simple. Palistianians need to stop electing Hamas and stop supporting and participating in terror against Israel and their lives will get better. Funny how that works.
"I'm sure that Canada's KKK was imported from the USA!!"--Anon2
See. She HATES the USA. Oh yeah, Anon2. We are just the hotbed of bad here in the US. KKK members can call themselves Christians, but they aren't Christians. Hate is not Christian. But here---you might be interested in this site:http://www.kkkk.net/canada/index.htm Oh it is a BEAUTIFUL and very professional site, Anon2! IT HAS THE CANADIAN FLAG AND THE KKK SYMBOL TOGETHER. Truly Canadian! You can almost hear "O Canada" in the background! Are you done yet? I mean, how many of these stupid statements can you make in a 24 hour period???
Racism and hate are part of the human condition. You cannot legislate it out, you cannot ban it. You CAN educate, and discourage, and legislate against outward and organized forms of it, but it will always be with us in 1 form or another. There is no Utopia, Anon2. It doesn't exist and never has. Because humans are flawed, we will always have evil and ugliness. Just like murder and theft and all of the other ills that we wish would go away. Even in Canada...
Oh---wasn't it YOU that said that we should "look in our own backyard" before we judged other countries? Maybe you need to take your own advice and work on stomping out hate, racism, and the KKK in Canada. (There is another site that talks about the growing anti-semitism in Canada---but I am sure that you wouldn't be interested in that one)
Oh Brandon...I think that Anon2 is good and pissed off at me right now...She keeps trying to blame all of the evil in the world on the USA, and then has to face the cold hard facts that Canada has evil, too. Hell, someone had to do it. Might as well be me. We don't like each other anyway....
"Oh Brandon...I think that Anon2 is good and pissed off at me right now...She keeps trying to blame all of the evil in the world on the USA, and then has to face the cold hard facts that Canada has evil, too. Hell, someone had to do it. Might as well be me. We don't like each other anyway...." -Casey
Liberals hate having to face reality. I think it really bothers them that their guy isnt saving our economy in the fairy tale way they expected!
"it really bothers them that their guy isnt saving our economy in the fairy tale way they expected!"---Brandon
His inexperience is showing. But my theory has always been that he has an agenda---and as long as he fulfills that agenda, he really has reached his goals, in spite of whatever else is happening in this country.
"It took Clinton a few years to dig us out of W1s mess, it will take Obama a few years to dig us out of W2s mess." -Raygun
Yes, we are in a hole and Obama is still digging. He just went a got a bigger shovel! He set down the 100 billion dollar shovel and picked up the trillion dollar one. That will only run this country farther into debt and hurt our economy!
"That's what school really does, teaches you to learn."---RG
That's lame. Clinton had executive experience and would have dealt with this oil spill and handled it. Clinton had the education AND experience. Wish we had him back. He was a good President.
"That's lame. Clinton had executive experience and would have dealt with this oil spill and handled it. "
Sure he would have. He would of unleashed the top secret oil spill recovery team?
We had Clinton, who did a great job, and his protege Gore. So who did a large percent of this countries populace vote for? Then he lied about a war, and is voted in again.
I am guessing none of our major problems ie, 9/11, both wars, the great recession, and the oil spill would of occurred if Gore had been in office those 8 years.
Strict regulation and an obsession with Al-Qaeda would have probably been enough to avoid all the problems just mentioned.
And now the cons want to put a w on steroids, aka a teabagger, in power and try again? JHC, we are doomed.
"We had Clinton, who did a great job, and his protege Gore."--RG
We liked Clinton. We didn't like Gore. Pretty simple stuff. They aren't interchangable. But you are skirting the issue. My point is that Obama and all his people are showing their inexperience---have they even WAIVED the Jones Act yet? What are they waiting for??? Geez...Bush would have handled this better! You keep thinking that people want Palin. Not true. No one but you guys are talking about her for President in 2012.
CC, zero main stream media is talking about this. I see it referenced on other blogs and it took 5 secs to provide the above link. Faux news is just that, False news.
Your link said we have accepted help from a few countries, what about all the rest of the help offered? The first offer wasnt accepted until 10 days after the spill began. What the hell took them so long and why have they not accepted most or all of the other offers to clean up?
This one is going to be a tough sell, RG. This is day 70 something, and still all that could have been done, isn't being done. "The Coast Guard said there have been 107 offers of help from 44 nations, ranging from technical advice to skimmer boats and booms. But many of those offers are weeks old, and only a small number have been accepted, with the vast majority still under review, according to a list kept by the State Department."-- http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/02/national/main6640388.shtml But there's more: Dubbed the "A Whale," the Taiwanese-flagged former tanker spans the length of 3½ football fields and is 10 stories high.
It just emerged from an extensive retrofitting to prepare it specifically for the Gulf, but it's still waiting for the Environmental Protection Agency and Coast Guard to sign off on it's use. (it cleans 500 million gallons per day) Sign off on it's use??? What could it POSSIBLY do that would be WORSE than what we have now? Face it. This is a dismal failure and you even have Clinton saying that it's being handled wrong.
"That is a myth," he declared, "that has been debunked literally hundreds of times."
I realize that he Gibbs said the above. Just because he said it, doesn't make it true. WH spin. Why did the Feds block the building of burms, as Jindal wanted? Why has just ablut every other plan and request been turned down? Why are they taking so long to approve all the others? They don't wait out of lack of direction. They wait because the Feds are making them wait while the EPA does their "studies". Nice try, but BP can't do anything without Fed approval at this point. Protecting the coast is the job of the FEDS and it isn't being done. (they are and will bill BP)You wouldn't have given Bush a pass like this. You are being hypocritical. 74 days is inexcusable.
Sorry. "Among the dubious oversight practices, the MMS has reportedly allowed hundreds of drilling plans to move forward without required permits since Obama took office" Huffpost. WOW. We shouldn't have been drilling so deep that humans couldn't reach anyway. Looks like regulations may not have been lacking; rather oversight that was the problem. You can only blame Bush for so much. We are now 1 1/2 years into this disaster of an Administration; it's their baby now.
"You can only blame Bush for so much. We are now 1 1/2 years into this disaster of an Administration; it's their baby now."
Good ol W handed over 2 wars, the great depression #2, and massive debt. Obamas hands are a little full.
Ill will throw out a bone.
We can't afford 11 million illegal low earning immigrants full US citizen status (mainly because they tend to have more kids and kids are expensive as in health care and education).
"We can't afford 11 million illegal low earning immigrants full US citizen status"---RG
Wow. Did that HURT, RG? (LOL) I have no problem with a guest worker program, but the current residents have to be vetted and sorted out. In Az you have a bunch of drug dealers, gang members, and criminals that are here illegally, and we have to know who's who. Bush did hand over too much debt, but Obama has almost tripled that number in 1 1/2 years! Look up the numbers, RG. Honestly, I don't think that we differ THAT MUCH on the issues. We need to get out of Iraq...We need to fight to WIN in Afganistan and get out, or if we are going to handle it the way it's been handled so far---we need to get out of Afganistan, too. I don't want to continue to be the world's police force. I think Obama is a tool and that he is extremely corrupt, and that's where we split the sheets--so to speak. I don't like his obvious distain for England and Israel. I think that he has an agenda, and aside from his agenda, he is pretty detached from our everyday struggles.
Bush ran up over 5 trillion in new debt plus he gets credit for Obamas first budget since he passed it.
"We need to fight to WIN in Afganistan and get out"
Think it's pretty hard to win against religious crazies. Iraq will likely fall apart once we are out also.
Think I am back to disagreeing about we can't afford more unemployment insurance. Seems to me, most are using the time to retrain themselves through college, exactly what this country needs. So it's money well spent.
Updating servers databases with new code, then hopefully the sun will come out and I can get lots of pond time in the afternoon. I lead a boring life.
What are you up to? Wild times with the new boy friend :-)
"The National Debt stood at $10.6-trillon on the day Barack Obama took office. But if his budget projections are accurate, he'll run up nearly as much government debt in four years as President Bush did in eight."---CBS
There you have it. Obama still thinks that it just peachey to spend. We have Europe and China getting nervous, and he can't understand why.... Yeah. I was planning on a big beach week. Family coming out to visit all week, but the forcast says rain and thunderstorms. Don't know what I will do with all of them if that happens! I have work to do, but my accounts recievables are so slow to pay that it takes alot of the fun out of it. The unemployment HAS to continue. That is one that we can't NOT fund. Can you imagine how many people would be homeless if the benefits stopped? I believe that most people WANT to work, but the jobs just aren't there. It isn't their fault.
Where is Anon2 these days? Think she is out stomping out the KKK in Canada? :} Sorry. I can't help myself. This evil side just comes over me, and it just comes out...
No, they put that off until after the July 4th weekend, when they come back from their vacations. It passed in Congress. Now we have the Senate. That is just something that has to go through. Better that than alot of the other crap that they fund! Like I said, it isn't like these people are just sitting around ENJOYING the tons of money that they get from unemployment! You can't survive on unemployment, but it helps. It will be a disaster if they don't pass it. BTW---what is "pond time"? Do you actually have a pond on your property?
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No article here, so I just will post this shameful incident. If these aren't racists, KKK and CONS... well then I'm done. Before judging others such as Palestinians look in your own backyard first. :(
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/04/arizona-elementary-school-mural_n_601436.html
Arizona Elementary School Will Whiten The Faces Of Its Own Students On A Mural Because Some Racists Yelled At It
"Via Ken Layne at Wonkette, this is just the worst story in the world:
An Arizona elementary school mural featuring the faces of kids who attend the school has been the subject of constant daytime drive-by racist screaming, from adults, as well as a radio talk-show campaign (by an actual city councilman, who has an AM talk-radio show) to remove the black student's face, and now the school principal has ordered the faces of the Latino and Black students to be changed to Caucasian skin.
F'ing hell. Read the rest of the details here. And here's Richard Lawson's reaction, at Gawker.
What can I say about this? We are talking about a bunch of mentally deranged adults, who have terrorized an elementary school, for daring to paint a mural featuring the faces of black and Latino children -- actual black and Latino children who live in Arizona. And we're also talking about a group of adults who have decided to send a stirring message to their students and the world: when a bunch of mentally deranged adults -- and we are not talking about people who are particularly threatening, this is a bunch of utterly gutless mopes, yelling racial slurs from their cars, egged on by some pinhead city councilman cowering behind a radio microphone -- threaten a bunch of children, the best thing to do is to accede to their psychotic, racist "demands."
Seriously, educators of Prescott, Arizona, when some creep demands you whiten the faces of your own students on a mural, the correct response is to say, "No, we will not be doing anything of the sort."
This story really should be blasted, far and wide. You cable news producers need to get this story in the mix with a quickness. And let me be clear to you all: there are no "two sides to this story." This is not something you need to have a panel discussion about. CNN, I don't want to see you plumbing the depths of your counterintuition on your website, or lending credence to the notion that the gutless mopes in their cars, shrieking racial slurs at the images of children have an interesting point of view that we should "hear out" because of the need to be "balanced." This is your moment to decry, condemn, and brutalize these evil people.
Blast them to hell, or go jump in the Gulf of Mexico."
There will always be ignorant white trash---uneducated and unsophisticated people that need someone to look down on. That is an unfortunate state of the human condition. But---before you blast the whole of the state,
***Wall said thousands of town residents volunteered or donated to the project.”
Anon2, You will always find racism. It exists in every country and every society. You want to see racism? Go to Asia. And yes, you have it in Canada. I don't defend it, I too, am offended by it.
However your first paragraph says it all, "Before judging others such as Palestinians look in your own backyard first." What does one have to do with the other?
Answer: not a thing! But leave it to you to try to make that giant leap.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/06/bush-administration-experimented-detainees-phr-report
Did the Bush Administration Experiment on Detainees?
VERY interesting article. Read also the many comments.
Caseyboy said...
"You want to see racism? And yes, you have it in Canada."
Guess that's why so many blacks escaped to Canada eh? lol
Thanks for the link to mother jones. Looks like a good site.
Link from mother jones
Maybe certain grouchy persons on this site should check out the above link.
"Guess that's why so many blacks escaped to Canada eh?"---Anon2
I don't know if you are trying to be funny, or what---but you make me laugh!
Your logic is that Slaves escaped to Canada because there is no racism there? Then I guess that using that logic, they also went to the northern US states because there is no racism here, either...
Yes, there is racism in Canada, as there is crime, drug problems, dirty politicians, and all of the other social ills found in all other countries. If not, then you should not be wasting your time on this blog. You should be basking in the pure utopia that is Canada. You could be out chasing unicorns, finding pots of gold at the end of rainbows, and picking up cherries off of the streets that are paved with pure gold!
You have racism, Anon2. Just as you had slavery, problems with the French Canadian provences, problems with your native peoples, and all of the ugly stuff that goes along with all growing and developing nations throughout history.
Raciam is an ugly side of the human condition. Racism and Prejudice are found in all walks of life and in every society. That doesn't make it right, and perfection is something to strive for, but it will never be wiped out entirely.
Mother Jones. The lefts conspiracy theory website....I've seen it. It's been around for alot of years.
Read this article in its entirety to see (a perhaps) 2 sides and a more human side of the story.
There's ALWAYS 2 sides to a story!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rania-al-abdullah/the-hard-line-on-grocery_b_603225.html
The Hard-Line on Grocery Items
Excerpt:
"What do chocolate, cookies, A4 paper, potato chips, cumin, toys, jelly, nuts, dried fruit, nutmeg, and goats have in common?
It's a tricky one. If you're a moderate, they have absolutely nothing in common. But if you are a hard-line Israeli politician, they are all potentially dangerous goods that could threaten Israel's security. Well, it seems that that side of the political spectrum has won the argument, as all the above are items that the Israeli government has prohibited from entering Gaza."
Comon Case, get some pills. All your boyfriends can not be wrong.
"Your logic is that Slaves escaped to Canada because there is no racism there?"
No KKK here in Canada schweetheart, never was.
""Your logic is that Slaves escaped to Canada because there is no racism there?"
No KKK here in Canada schweetheart, never was."
-Anon2
How can you liberals be so ignorant? I am not going to pretend that the conservative party is perfect nor is the United States but I prefer both over any other options. I also condem the actions of both when I disagree with them but you liberals simply turn your heads and pretend your party is perfect and ALL of our countries problems can be blamed on conservatives. GET A CLUE!!!
Anon2 maybe you should check out this website!
http://members.shaw.ca/prairiegiant/public_html/Hist_KKK.html
GREAT JOB, BRANDON!!!
Good website! Anon2 is delusional. Now we won't hear from her for a while because she can't stand to be proven wrong. She never bothers to research before she makes these statements that have no basis in truth or reality.
As I said before, Anon2---racism is an unfortunate and dark side of the human condition. IT IS FOUND IN EVERY SOCIETY AND NATION ON THIS EARTH. As much as you hate the US (and I believe that you do)we don't have a lock on all things bad in this world. Canada too, has it's skeletons, dark times, and ugliness.
Guess you need to drop the smug and condesending act....sweetheart!
There are 2 sides to this story. The other side says things like, "go back to Auschwitz". And I suppose gas masks, knives, and guns are needed for this "human aide" mission?
"the 1,000 days of illegal blockade" Your author shows her bias and propaganda mission here when she calls this an "illegal blockade". The blockade is perfectly legal and it is also on the Egypt side of Gaza.
the answer is simple. Palistianians need to stop electing Hamas and stop supporting and participating in terror against Israel and their lives will get better. Funny how that works.
I'm sure that Canada's KKK was imported from the USA!!
So-called devout redneck Christians were their members who didn't hesitate to lynch blacks in the USA.
I'm sure that the KKK is alive and well in the USA nowadays.
Regarding racism, seems quite clear that the further you head north, the less there is. Mainly regarding the US and Canada.
"I'm sure that Canada's KKK was imported from the USA!!"--Anon2
See. She HATES the USA. Oh yeah, Anon2. We are just the hotbed of bad here in the US.
KKK members can call themselves Christians, but they aren't Christians. Hate is not Christian.
But here---you might be interested in this site:http://www.kkkk.net/canada/index.htm
Oh it is a BEAUTIFUL and very professional site, Anon2! IT HAS THE CANADIAN FLAG AND THE KKK SYMBOL TOGETHER. Truly Canadian! You can almost hear "O Canada" in the background!
Are you done yet? I mean, how many of these stupid statements can you make in a 24 hour period???
Racism and hate are part of the human condition. You cannot legislate it out, you cannot ban it.
You CAN educate, and discourage, and legislate against outward and organized forms of it, but it will always be with us in 1 form or another.
There is no Utopia, Anon2. It doesn't exist and never has. Because humans are flawed, we will always have evil and ugliness. Just like murder and theft and all of the other ills that we wish would go away. Even in Canada...
Oh---wasn't it YOU that said that we should "look in our own backyard" before we judged other countries?
Maybe you need to take your own advice and work on stomping out hate, racism, and the KKK in Canada.
(There is another site that talks about the growing anti-semitism in Canada---but I am sure that you wouldn't be interested in that one)
""Your logic is that Slaves escaped to Canada because there is no racism there?"
No KKK here in Canada schweetheart, never was."
-Anon2
Anon2-
This is what CONSERVATIVES call a lie! I know you liberals are unfamiliar with the definition of LYING. Maybe this will help.
Lie:
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression
Oh Brandon...I think that Anon2 is good and pissed off at me right now...She keeps trying to blame all of the evil in the world on the USA, and then has to face the cold hard facts that Canada has evil, too. Hell, someone had to do it. Might as well be me. We don't like each other anyway....
Well....guess that about says it all...
"Oh Brandon...I think that Anon2 is good and pissed off at me right now...She keeps trying to blame all of the evil in the world on the USA, and then has to face the cold hard facts that Canada has evil, too. Hell, someone had to do it. Might as well be me. We don't like each other anyway...."
-Casey
Liberals hate having to face reality. I think it really bothers them that their guy isnt saving our economy in the fairy tale way they expected!
"it really bothers them that their guy isnt saving our economy in the fairy tale way they expected!"---Brandon
His inexperience is showing. But my theory has always been that he has an agenda---and as long as he fulfills that agenda, he really has reached his goals, in spite of whatever else is happening in this country.
"I think it really bothers them that their guy isnt saving our economy in the fairy tale way they expected!"
It took Clinton a few years to dig us out of W1s mess, it will take Obama a few years to dig us out of W2s mess.
Right....Still have that "hope", I see. Difference is, Clinton had executive experience---and it showed.
"Right....Still have that "hope", I see. Difference is, Clinton had executive experience---and it showed."
That's what school really does, teaches you to learn.
I bet you wish simple Sarah was in charge instead?
Hey BB, shouldn't you be shorting gold in the futures market? Please tell me when you start going long. Thanks.
"It took Clinton a few years to dig us out of W1s mess, it will take Obama a few years to dig us out of W2s mess."
-Raygun
Yes, we are in a hole and Obama is still digging. He just went a got a bigger shovel! He set down the 100 billion dollar shovel and picked up the trillion dollar one. That will only run this country farther into debt and hurt our economy!
"That's what school really does, teaches you to learn."---RG
That's lame. Clinton had executive experience and would have dealt with this oil spill and handled it. Clinton had the education AND experience. Wish we had him back. He was a good President.
"That's lame. Clinton had executive experience and would have dealt with this oil spill and handled it. "
Sure he would have. He would of unleashed the top secret oil spill recovery team?
We had Clinton, who did a great job, and his protege Gore. So who did a large percent of this countries populace vote for? Then he lied about a war, and is voted in again.
I am guessing none of our major problems ie, 9/11, both wars, the great recession, and the oil spill would of occurred if Gore had been in office those 8 years.
Strict regulation and an obsession with Al-Qaeda would have probably been enough to avoid all the problems just mentioned.
And now the cons want to put a w on steroids, aka a teabagger, in power and try again? JHC, we are doomed.
"We had Clinton, who did a great job, and his protege Gore."--RG
We liked Clinton. We didn't like Gore. Pretty simple stuff. They aren't interchangable.
But you are skirting the issue. My point is that Obama and all his people are showing their inexperience---have they even WAIVED the Jones Act yet? What are they waiting for??? Geez...Bush would have handled this better!
You keep thinking that people want Palin. Not true. No one but you guys are talking about her for President in 2012.
BTW---even Clinton didn't like Gore!
Link
CC, zero main stream media is talking about this. I see it referenced on other blogs and it took 5 secs to provide the above link. Faux news is just that, False news.
Raygun-
Your link said we have accepted help from a few countries, what about all the rest of the help offered? The first offer wasnt accepted until 10 days after the spill began. What the hell took them so long and why have they not accepted most or all of the other offers to clean up?
source:
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/143488.pdf
This one is going to be a tough sell, RG. This is day 70 something, and still all that could have been done, isn't being done.
"The Coast Guard said there have been 107 offers of help from 44 nations, ranging from technical advice to skimmer boats and booms. But many of those offers are weeks old, and only a small number have been accepted, with the vast majority still under review, according to a list kept by the State Department."-- http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/02/national/main6640388.shtml
But there's more: Dubbed the "A Whale," the Taiwanese-flagged former tanker spans the length of 3½ football fields and is 10 stories high.
It just emerged from an extensive retrofitting to prepare it specifically for the Gulf, but it's still waiting for the Environmental Protection Agency and Coast Guard to sign off on it's use. (it cleans 500 million gallons per day)
Sign off on it's use??? What could it POSSIBLY do that would be WORSE than what we have now?
Face it. This is a dismal failure and you even have Clinton saying that it's being handled wrong.
Sweetness,
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs on Thursday scorned the idea that "somehow it took the command 70 days to accept international help."
"That is a myth," he declared, "that has been debunked literally hundreds of times."
"They just wait because there's no direction," Ditcharo said. He said he believes BP has hired many boat captains "to show numbers."
These quotes are from your link.
"The first offer wasnt accepted until 10 days after the spill began."
Why is the government responsible and who wants them involved as they are incompetent?
I'll bet the real problem is the oil skimmer boats want to charge BP a large fee and BP is balking.
"That is a myth," he declared, "that has been debunked literally hundreds of times."
I realize that he Gibbs said the above. Just because he said it, doesn't make it true. WH spin.
Why did the Feds block the building of burms, as Jindal wanted? Why has just ablut every other plan and request been turned down? Why are they taking so long to approve all the others?
They don't wait out of lack of direction. They wait because the Feds are making them wait while the EPA does their "studies". Nice try, but BP can't do anything without Fed approval at this point. Protecting the coast is the job of the FEDS and it isn't being done. (they are and will bill BP)You wouldn't have given Bush a pass like this. You are being hypocritical. 74 days is inexcusable.
"You wouldn't have given Bush a pass like this"
It's bushes fault. He should of regulated and enforced regulations more.
Why isn't incompetent BP doing more about the spill?
Jones Act
More con delusion
Figures Sarah the queen of lies is involved.
Sorry. "Among the dubious oversight practices, the MMS has reportedly allowed hundreds of drilling plans to move forward without required permits since Obama took office" Huffpost. WOW.
We shouldn't have been drilling so deep that humans couldn't reach anyway.
Looks like regulations may not have been lacking; rather oversight that was the problem.
You can only blame Bush for so much. We are now 1 1/2 years into this disaster of an Administration; it's their baby now.
"You can only blame Bush for so much. We are now 1 1/2 years into this disaster of an Administration; it's their baby now."
Good ol W handed over 2 wars, the great depression #2, and massive debt. Obamas hands are a little full.
Ill will throw out a bone.
We can't afford 11 million illegal low earning immigrants full US citizen status (mainly because they tend to have more kids and kids are expensive as in health care and education).
There, I disagree with Obama.
"We can't afford 11 million illegal low earning immigrants full US citizen status"---RG
Wow. Did that HURT, RG? (LOL)
I have no problem with a guest worker program, but the current residents have to be vetted and sorted out. In Az you have a bunch of drug dealers, gang members, and criminals that are here illegally, and we have to know who's who.
Bush did hand over too much debt, but Obama has almost tripled that number in 1 1/2 years! Look up the numbers, RG.
Honestly, I don't think that we differ THAT MUCH on the issues. We need to get out of Iraq...We need to fight to WIN in Afganistan and get out, or if we are going to handle it the way it's been handled so far---we need to get out of Afganistan, too.
I don't want to continue to be the world's police force. I think Obama is a tool and that he is extremely corrupt, and that's where we split the sheets--so to speak.
I don't like his obvious distain for England and Israel. I think that he has an agenda, and aside from his agenda, he is pretty detached from our everyday struggles.
So what are your plans for the weekend, RG?
"Bush did hand over too much debt,"
Bush ran up over 5 trillion in new debt plus he gets credit for Obamas first budget since he passed it.
"We need to fight to WIN in Afganistan and get out"
Think it's pretty hard to win against religious crazies. Iraq will likely fall apart once we are out also.
Think I am back to disagreeing about we can't afford more unemployment insurance. Seems to me, most are using the time to retrain themselves through college, exactly what this country needs. So it's money well spent.
Updating servers databases with new code, then hopefully the sun will come out and I can get lots of pond time in the afternoon. I lead a boring life.
What are you up to? Wild times with the new boy friend :-)
"The National Debt stood at $10.6-trillon on the day Barack Obama took office. But if his budget projections are accurate, he'll run up nearly as much government debt in four years as President Bush did in eight."---CBS
There you have it. Obama still thinks that it just peachey to spend. We have Europe and China getting nervous, and he can't understand why....
Yeah. I was planning on a big beach week. Family coming out to visit all week, but the forcast says rain and thunderstorms. Don't know what I will do with all of them if that happens!
I have work to do, but my accounts recievables are so slow to pay that it takes alot of the fun out of it.
The unemployment HAS to continue. That is one that we can't NOT fund. Can you imagine how many people would be homeless if the benefits stopped? I believe that most people WANT to work, but the jobs just aren't there. It isn't their fault.
Where is Anon2 these days? Think she is out stomping out the KKK in Canada? :}
Sorry. I can't help myself. This evil side just comes over me, and it just comes out...
"Yeah. I was planning on a big beach week. "
Don't forget to post the bikini pics.
"This evil side just comes over me, and it just comes out..."
You 2 need a good old fashioned mud wrestling match.
"The unemployment HAS to continue. That is one that we can't NOT fund."
But the cons voted to end funding anymore extensions.
No, they put that off until after the July 4th weekend, when they come back from their vacations. It passed in Congress. Now we have the Senate. That is just something that has to go through. Better that than alot of the other crap that they fund! Like I said, it isn't like these people are just sitting around ENJOYING the tons of money that they get from unemployment! You can't survive on unemployment, but it helps. It will be a disaster if they don't pass it.
BTW---what is "pond time"? Do you actually have a pond on your property?
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